It mostly affects people who use Reddit to search people discussing stuff. Unfortunately I don’t think the Fediverse is indexed much, plus some niche communities/interests just doesn’t have the critical mass.
Good! Finally the last holdover users will reconsider open source alternatives
LOOOOLOLOL brother, I want some of what you’re smoking because I want to exist in this reality where people are fleeing Reddit rather than flocking to it. This only affects logged-out visitors, not so much “users”. Most platforms have been this way for a long time and seen no such decline either. Pretty much the entire internet is already account-gated.
Hi, I’m part of the Community Team for Lemmy.World. We help with finding moderators, make sure communities are kept up, and make sure moderators follow the site rules.
To some extent mods are mods. There will always be people who disagree, vehemently, and some people who resent any rules or moderation at all.
I mention this because there are a couple things I’ve tried to do on our instance to address Reddit mistakes. First, I try to avoid having several large communities under the same mods. The mod who holds a grudge in !trees shouldn’t be able to ban you from !science. (Assuming those are both large communities).
This can be difficult, because you’d be surprised at how few extremely active people are willing to moderate even a tiny community.
The other is that instead of putting out advertisements to recruit for mods, I try to draft mods. So our mods are not limited to those who seek out the position.
As a long time Reddit mod and new Lemmy.World mod, I do lament the lack of many helpful features I’m used to, but I’m glad for:
The significantly reduced likelihood of a moderator going rogue (because a rival community can pop up in its place with the same name and do a better job and the admins here are much more responsive and transparent)
Public-facing mod logs (see previous point)
One of the big reasons I’m even here is /r/tampa’s moderators went off the deep end, quietly shadowbanning people they didn’t like, banning anyone who talked about it, and lying about doing both.
If I were to do something similar with /c/tampa, I trust an admin would remove me and/or someone would start whatever.instance/c/tampa. On Reddit, running /r/FreeTampa (because you can’t just have another /r/tampa), I have to be very careful about talking about why the subreddit even exists or we get slapped for brigading; Reddit is staunchly against anyone constructively criticizing subreddits/moderators.
I have to be very careful about talking about why the subreddit even exists or we get slapped for brigading; Reddit is staunchly against anyone constructively criticizing subreddits/moderators.
the reddit mods of the large subs should not be one on here, because many of them are powermods(they have hordes large accounts under thier belt, plus i heard many of those are in cahoots with the admins of reddit.
what lemmy needs is the niche subs. also indian subs are pretty much taking over reddit, solely because of the sheer number of people in india, apparently they dont have a sole “social media” platform of thier own. and i heard this is drama with india subs, solely because of the BJP bots.
same, they only started appearing on reddit after musk/trump was "deciding to " limit h1b visa last year it was getting more attention than it should. reddit is likely going to be an “indian only reddit” mostly because they have the sheer number of people using it, more than most other countries combined.
The advantage lemmy has is that unlike reddit, you can easily make a community of the same name, just on a different server in the case of mod disagreements.
Its MUCH harder to powertrip on lemmy, both because the mod tools are ass, and spinning a new community isnt hard.
Didn’t like tenforward have tHe Exodus drama with some mod?
Much harder to powertrip you say? Have you looked in the modlogs and see how moderators ban users in multiple instances that is unrelated to the original instance? It’s very reddit like.
The fact you can look at the mod logs is already something you cant even compare to when using reddit. Youd be suprised how far reddit mods will go.
The ban is also not worth as much as like i mentioned, communities are spread. There isnt always one version of a community of the same name, whereas clones of subreddits on reddit have an insignificant fraction of the traffic compared to a main one.
When a moderator comes in and starts to affect a lot of people, it can cause a mass exodus to a sister community. That doesnt happen really on reddit, because the people left on reddit are slow to change their habits (the fact that most dont use alternatives shows so). The people who use lemmy have generally had the mindset that if you need to switch, then they will do so.
In your first paragraph you hint at shadowbanning.
You can’t even shadowban people at all on Lemmy (as far as I know), while it’s a go-to for unethical Reddit moderators; nothing can be done to stop them and most people don’t even know it exists.
I was shadowbanned from /r/tampa because I asked them to implement removal reasons (a feature that’s existed on Reddit and takes five or ten minutes to set up). That upset /u/md28usmc and he shadowbanned me for it. Asking why I was shadowbanned led to them perma-banning me.
You got a point… What i meant to say is whoever is maintaining the migration of content to lemmy. Hope they put some effort into advertising Lemmy as a viable alternative.
i came from a ban, at the time i remember lemmy was remember during the API crisis, then i just made account, on instance, when it got shut down i went to another instance.
Just remember Lemmy is only part of a larger network called the Fediverse. If you find you don’t really like it, there are other alternatives like Mbin and PieFed. They’re all pretty good I think, but Mbin is probably my personal favorite. There are also custom lemmy interfaces like old.lemmy.world, as well as lots of different mobile clients.
All the different instances and platforms can tall talk to each other, so you can subscribe to communities you like from any of them, as long as they are connected (aka federated). So somebody on https://kbin.earth/ (an Mbin instance) could subscribe to [email protected] and post there, browse, etc. even though they’re different websites.
I’ll share I pretty much only signed up for lemmy.world because I looked up which one had the most users (not that it seems to matter with all the crossover).
I wonder if there’s another instance I’d like more!
I made accounts on a few different ones to check them all out but I started in kbin.social while it was still a thing (the admin had some health issues I heard, hope he’s doing ok). Kbin was the predecessor to Mbin, which got picked up by some other devs thankfully.
Kbin.social was my first too, Ernest was a king and I hope he’s doing well and thriving in life.
Made a handful of alts when it became clear kbin was going away. Ended up using .zip as my main as I like their hands-off approach to moderating/degeneration. We’re federated with everyone except malicious/criminal instances by default. If you don’t want to see things you need to block them yourself which I like a lot.
Good! Finally the last holdover users will reconsider open source alternatives
What we need now is for every modteam on Reddit who have an alternative on Lemmy, to actually advertise it. Now is the time to do so.
A pinned post should do great to point people in the right direction
It mostly affects people who use Reddit to search people discussing stuff. Unfortunately I don’t think the Fediverse is indexed much, plus some niche communities/interests just doesn’t have the critical mass.
LOOOOLOLOL brother, I want some of what you’re smoking because I want to exist in this reality where people are fleeing Reddit rather than flocking to it. This only affects logged-out visitors, not so much “users”. Most platforms have been this way for a long time and seen no such decline either. Pretty much the entire internet is already account-gated.
Already account-gated and increasingly human-verification-gated as well.
wait til you see ID-gated, and facial scan, thats what facebook does.
I want to keep Reddit mods off of Lemmy
Hi, I’m part of the Community Team for Lemmy.World. We help with finding moderators, make sure communities are kept up, and make sure moderators follow the site rules.
To some extent mods are mods. There will always be people who disagree, vehemently, and some people who resent any rules or moderation at all.
I mention this because there are a couple things I’ve tried to do on our instance to address Reddit mistakes. First, I try to avoid having several large communities under the same mods. The mod who holds a grudge in !trees shouldn’t be able to ban you from !science. (Assuming those are both large communities).
This can be difficult, because you’d be surprised at how few extremely active people are willing to moderate even a tiny community. The other is that instead of putting out advertisements to recruit for mods, I try to draft mods. So our mods are not limited to those who seek out the position.
As a long time Reddit mod and new Lemmy.World mod, I do lament the lack of many helpful features I’m used to, but I’m glad for:
The significantly reduced likelihood of a moderator going rogue (because a rival community can pop up in its place with the same name and do a better job and the admins here are much more responsive and transparent)
Public-facing mod logs (see previous point)
One of the big reasons I’m even here is /r/tampa’s moderators went off the deep end, quietly shadowbanning people they didn’t like, banning anyone who talked about it, and lying about doing both.
If I were to do something similar with /c/tampa, I trust an admin would remove me and/or someone would start whatever.instance/c/tampa. On Reddit, running /r/FreeTampa (because you can’t just have another /r/tampa), I have to be very careful about talking about why the subreddit even exists or we get slapped for brigading; Reddit is staunchly against anyone constructively criticizing subreddits/moderators.
And only you as a mod needs to be that careful. The users will keep going to r/tampa and antagonizing r/FreeTampa, or the opposite, as there is no rule that directly forbids regular users from doing it, only the one directed to moderators.
Big, if true.
the reddit mods of the large subs should not be one on here, because many of them are powermods(they have hordes large accounts under thier belt, plus i heard many of those are in cahoots with the admins of reddit.
what lemmy needs is the niche subs. also indian subs are pretty much taking over reddit, solely because of the sheer number of people in india, apparently they dont have a sole “social media” platform of thier own. and i heard this is drama with india subs, solely because of the BJP bots.
I see far more “someone else should make a community” than people making communities. I think that’s a bit silly and selfish.
The Indian subs were part of what made me leave. I don’t dislike Indian people, the subs are just totally irrelevant to me
same, they only started appearing on reddit after musk/trump was "deciding to " limit h1b visa last year it was getting more attention than it should. reddit is likely going to be an “indian only reddit” mostly because they have the sheer number of people using it, more than most other countries combined.
The advantage lemmy has is that unlike reddit, you can easily make a community of the same name, just on a different server in the case of mod disagreements.
Its MUCH harder to powertrip on lemmy, both because the mod tools are ass, and spinning a new community isnt hard.
Didn’t like tenforward have tHe Exodus drama with some mod?
Much harder to powertrip you say? Have you looked in the modlogs and see how moderators ban users in multiple instances that is unrelated to the original instance? It’s very reddit like.
The fact you can look at the mod logs is already something you cant even compare to when using reddit. Youd be suprised how far reddit mods will go.
The ban is also not worth as much as like i mentioned, communities are spread. There isnt always one version of a community of the same name, whereas clones of subreddits on reddit have an insignificant fraction of the traffic compared to a main one.
When a moderator comes in and starts to affect a lot of people, it can cause a mass exodus to a sister community. That doesnt happen really on reddit, because the people left on reddit are slow to change their habits (the fact that most dont use alternatives shows so). The people who use lemmy have generally had the mindset that if you need to switch, then they will do so.
In your first paragraph you hint at shadowbanning.
You can’t even shadowban people at all on Lemmy (as far as I know), while it’s a go-to for unethical Reddit moderators; nothing can be done to stop them and most people don’t even know it exists.
I was shadowbanned from /r/tampa because I asked them to implement removal reasons (a feature that’s existed on Reddit and takes five or ten minutes to set up). That upset /u/md28usmc and he shadowbanned me for it. Asking why I was shadowbanned led to them perma-banning me.
I think you mean communities (subreddits), and that can appear that way with an instance (server) ban.
Do Lemmy instances also have that “no brigading” rule of Reddit that only exists for mods?
Because I think that rule contributed a lot to make mods more heavyhanded on their communities, even if they didn’t intend to.
unfortunately they dont, but its easier to block the whole instance. at least 2 instances crossbanned me, even if barely interacted with those.
You got a point… What i meant to say is whoever is maintaining the migration of content to lemmy. Hope they put some effort into advertising Lemmy as a viable alternative.
It’s what made me finally check out lemmy.
i came from a ban, at the time i remember lemmy was remember during the API crisis, then i just made account, on instance, when it got shut down i went to another instance.
Welcome!
Just remember Lemmy is only part of a larger network called the Fediverse. If you find you don’t really like it, there are other alternatives like Mbin and PieFed. They’re all pretty good I think, but Mbin is probably my personal favorite. There are also custom lemmy interfaces like old.lemmy.world, as well as lots of different mobile clients.
All the different instances and platforms can tall talk to each other, so you can subscribe to communities you like from any of them, as long as they are connected (aka federated). So somebody on https://kbin.earth/ (an Mbin instance) could subscribe to [email protected] and post there, browse, etc. even though they’re different websites.
What would you say makes Mbin your favorite compared to Lemmy? What mobile app do you use for Mbin?
This is a great breakdown.
I’ll share I pretty much only signed up for lemmy.world because I looked up which one had the most users (not that it seems to matter with all the crossover).
I wonder if there’s another instance I’d like more!
It’s likely the one most similar to Reddit, for better or worse.
worlds is the largest one, but its problematic if you dont block the politics communities ones, i made one on lemmytoday as my goto.
I made accounts on a few different ones to check them all out but I started in kbin.social while it was still a thing (the admin had some health issues I heard, hope he’s doing ok). Kbin was the predecessor to Mbin, which got picked up by some other devs thankfully.
Kbin.social was my first too, Ernest was a king and I hope he’s doing well and thriving in life.
Made a handful of alts when it became clear kbin was going away. Ended up using .zip as my main as I like their hands-off approach to moderating/degeneration. We’re federated with everyone except malicious/criminal instances by default. If you don’t want to see things you need to block them yourself which I like a lot.
And self hosting, no less. Pretty sweet. Welcome!
Welcome!!
Sweet, welcome, I’m glad you could make it!
Welcome!
The holdover users already have accounts, so this change will not affect them.
True, made me log back on and see how it’s going
Not well. Scrolling Reddit sucks now.
Remember when the internet was fun
Yeah even the porn. We need more self-porn on lemmy!!