This was enough for me to jump ship, after some research fastmail seems to meet my needs. Sure its not a perfect replacement but im willing to miss out on some features to avoid funding this kind of behaviour. Voted with my wallet
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I wish I could just throw out email and calendars as a service and still live in the modern world. I really don’t like my only options for them being having to host it myself with all the pitfalls that can come with or using services controlled by data brokers like Google, shit heads like this guy apparently is, or our way or the highway gatekeepers like Apple.
I just want to give someone money to let me point my domain at it for email services and host my calendar without any drama or BS. Why does that concept have to be so complicated these days?
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I switched to Mullvad and Tuta yesterday. Still working on moving password managers. I’ve let some things slide in the past but Yen has turned into such a big asshole. Proton deserves a better CEO.
Holy shit, well that slipped through my research. Time to checkout IVPN, maybe?
I switched to IVPN. So far so good.
Literally a Nazbol, a joke ideology indistinguishable from just being a Nazi in red. Being a true believer makes him a Nazi and pushing Nazis as spoilers makes him, guess what, a Nazi.
It’d be one thing if he got pushed out afterwards but the reality is Mullvad’s founders support ethnic cleansing, and as much as I don’t like Yen I don’t think the timing of their compliments can attach that sin to them, provably.
I guess I’ll say it here, but I have always had weird feelings about proton. They are always marked as the top of privacy alternatives to Google. I was never sold on it though and figured that the shit would hit the fan eventually
“Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.”
It’s not “how to be slower” but “how to be safer and ensure we deliver a product that holds up to what we’re portraying it as.”
“how to have time to do my job”
These fuckers treat us like machines.
It’s hard to imagine someone more intimately familiar with “loser thinking” than Andy Yen. Go gargle Trump’s balls some more and bully your workers who actually want to build without security concerns. I’m staying far, far away from anything Proton…
One word. Mailu. Problem solved.
Switched the first time this douchebag outed himself. It was hard at first but I figured it out and never have to do this again. I know it’s not for everyone but it might be for you. At least consider hosting your own mail. A mini PC or old laptop can handle it.
One thing Proton seems to have going for them is use of renewable energy, with a large portion coming from hydroelectric power.
Yeah well I doubt those code gen AIs are powered by renewables.
What would be the benefit of using a fossil source? Apparently, their “data centers seem to run on 100% green energy” ( https://www.devproblems.com/proton-sustainability/ )
Canceled subscription after the political statements, but have been putting off moving away from their free tier. Time to buy a domain and go fastmail or mailbox I guess
The same CEO who, a while ago, praised the Republicans? How can a company under someone like that ever be “privacy first”? If I remember correctly, there were a lot of people acting as if this wouldn’t affect the products in of itself, but how could it not?
yikes… i need to dump proton.
I get downvoted on Lemmy every time I point this out. It’s like clockwork.
My thoughts exactly! I was banned on a Reddit sub for critiquing him. Seems he really has his fanboys.
The “anti big tech” that want’s to burn CLAUDE tokens instead of hiring engineers…
Have I lost the plot if I’m not purity testing every service I use? As long as there’s no slavery involved, my data isn’t being sold, and I’m not enriching the top three billionaires, I can sleep at night using a free email service.
In this case it’s not purity testing but rather concern over the direction the company is taking internally.
Will you intrust your private data with a software that’s mostly vibe coded ?
Ahhh thank you I appreciate
More than vibe coded, this part should be concerning.
Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, had a message for an employee in the company’s security Slack channel who urged the company to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure,” Yen wrote in the channel at the end of August. “Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.”
Someone highlighted that they should take a few days to do some extra testing to ensure security. The CEO says it’s bullshit and to be less slow. That’s extremely reckless.
I have been inclined to give Proton the benefit of doubt with some of their stuff, but this is pretty rough.
I’m giving them a month to fire Yen and change direction or I’m out. I’m also looking for good recommendations of where to go - so far I’m looking at Tuta or Murena (my phone is already on /e/OS)
I’ve been using Tuta for 8 or so years now and outside some rare technical issues years ago, I’ve been pretty happy with it. I’m also not aware of any drama they’d be involved in so they have that going for them.
I just mailbox.org with a custom domain and it’s been great, no complaints.
I never liked proton’s app suite approach instead of picking one or two things and getting good at them so I’ve replaced all other services with other options.









