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What do you guys think about this? I think its a big positive.
Edit: After reading about this on hacker news, I get why they do it. Its to make people upload identification documents, to get them prepped to authenticate for using the internet. Now the world makes sense again. I was wondering why they would do something positive. But now I get it.


Right, but the law doesn’t do that. In fact it was specifically forbidden from doing that. Here’s the full text of the Bill. Section 63DB specifically says:
In plain language: you can only accept ID to verify age if you also have some other method of verifying age instead.
So far, it looks like most sites are relying on data they already have. The age of your account, the type of content you post, etc. Because I have not heard of a single adult being hit with a request to verify their age anywhere other than Discord, and even on Discord, it’s only when trying to view NSFW-tagged channels. (Which is an 18+ thing, and completely unrelated to this law, which is 16+ for all social media. Despite Discord having been officially classified as not social media, but a chat app, which does not apply.)
It also says, in 63F:
In other words, whatever information you collect to do the age verification, unless you already have it, with the user’s consent, for some other purpose, you must not store their information.
It would not have been hard to just not include that part of the law. Some privacy advocates would have spoken up about it, but the general public would have probably brushed it off. No, they included that because this isn’t about information harvesting. It’s a misguided but genuine attempt to protect kids. And, if you’re looking for a more cynical spin on it, it’s to win some good PR with people for being able to say they’re protecting kids, while also not doing anything that would substantially hurt big tech’s bottom line…like regulating the algorithms themselves.
But again, you mentioned the US government. What does that have to do with this? This is a law passed in Australia, but the Australian government. An entirely different country, and one with an actually functioning government and legislature.
Im upvoting you, you put so much effort into this response and made me think twice about it. Perhaps you are right. I would love if you are. And yeah, its australia, not the US, of course.
A lovely fairy story, based on ignoring all past and current law-breaking by the tech bro companies!
Yikes. This is some really dangerous misinformation. Labor received 55% of the votes. Because we use an actual democratic system, not the FPTP farce that America and the UK have. You cannot compare first preferences in IRV to votes in FPTP.
No, you have IRV, not any proportional system. IRV is better than most-takes-all but it’s still a malfunction. Labor ended up with 55% after voters for smaller parties were denied their first choice entirely.
As far as laws regarding digital rights / freedoms go, we have no chance in Australia anyway as the major parties are all against them.
In fact the coalition has an even worse track record than labor.