• Lemminary@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Like what? I can understand something like cannibalism and incest resulting in some diseases, which is fair, although they’re not exclusive to religion. But most typical religious taboos are harmless and arguably more harmful to society for no good reason.

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      7 hours ago

      I can understand something like cannibalism and incest resulting in some diseases, which is fair, although they’re not exclusive to religion.

      They don’t need to be. Religious and secular moral codes regularly inform one another.

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        Do you have examples? If that were true, religious taboos would be more rational.

        I mean, a lot of religions don’t particularly denounce cannibalism. Catholicism is famously based on eating the flesh of Christ, and it’s repeated in every Sunday mass. And the Christian Bible also makes several references to incest, like with the story of Lot and his daughters.

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          Do you have examples?

          Medicalized secular acceptance/resistance toward vaccination has been picked up by religious organizations and turned into a sectarian belief.

          The NIH even had a study illustrating how outreach to religious leadership heavily impacted how communities adopted vaccination.

          I mean, a lot of religions don’t particularly denounce cannibalism

          Virtually every modern world religion has a stated position on murder generally speaking, human sacrifice specifically, and dietary taboos around cannibalism.

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            Vaccines? Has that ever been a taboo? That’s a general and recent attitude.

            Alright, fair with cannibalism being frowned upon. I still can’t think of many more significant examples.

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              Has that ever been a taboo?

              Pretty much since their inception, although it has waxed and waned with public perception.

              I still can’t think of many more significant examples

              Pedophilia is always one that leaps to mind. Faith groups regularly wrestle with the age of consent, and largely shape their views around secular consensus rather than any liturgical instructions.

              The Madonna / Whore Complex has it’s imprint stamped all over modern Christendom, with religious leadership being the textbook cases.

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                Pretty much since their inception, although it has waxed and waned with public perception.

                It started out strong for a little while until people got used to the idea, as they did with pretty much everything. But it’s still not a religious taboo per se. That’s simply resistance to change and fear of the unknown, but it was not as extreme as other taboos with life-changing consequences.

                What do you mean by pedophilia is a taboo? Religions like Islam and Christianity allow large age gaps in marriage. Wasn’t the Virgin Mary like 13 when she got knocked up by Joseph and blamed it on the Holy Spirit? Mohammed married Aisha when she was six at the age of 40, and a lot of the Islamic culture revolves around arranged marriages that allow it. And those are only the dominant religions. I’m sure we can find more examples in the lesser ones because the concept of childhood and its sanctity is not that old.

                The Madonna–whore complex is attributed to Freud, who coined it in the 60s. How was it ever a religious taboo?

                Whichever the case, we’re burying the lede: where’s the interplay between secularism and religiosity that informs one another among all these?