Class struggle is intrinsic to communism, it’s important to show the working classes that our collective enemy isn’t each other, but the capitalists and the capitalist state. We need to align the working classes against our shared class enemy, not try to ally with those who support the systems supporting our class enemies.
I’m referring to communism as the movement, not as communism the mode of production. In the far future where communism is achieved, there wouldn’t be individuals propagandized against communism, the lengthy process of getting there is through socialism by which point those contradictions are worked out.
In the present day, capitalists are the enemy of the working classes. Trying to unite the working classes against them and their enablers, ie the GOP, DNC, etc, is a progressive struggle.
You’re entirely confused. I live in the US Empire, of course I know people raised in capitalism. I’m not calling the working class my enemy, I’m calling for the working class to directly combat the DNC, GOP, and the entire capitalist class. I’m not conflating those who side with the capitalists despite being working class with the capitalist class, but recognizing that we need to do our best to show them who their actual enemies are and organize them.
I think you misunderstood what they meant, when they said “capitalists” they meant those who own the capital and such, not people who believe capitalism works and socialism doesn’t. Propagandized individuals are only capitalists if they own capital.
I agree with you, but also the communist bad vs capitalist bad meme war and the corresponding comments are the only reason I’m still on the fediverse.
With no conservative presence to speak of, you get to see why no unity is possible between groups of any significant size. Leftists will continue to shatter into smaller groups and those groups will vie for dominance inside of the movement. Each group will develop purity tests to identify members.
Even amongst groups of capitalists, even amongst groups of communists, even amongst groups of lgbtq+ people and the sub groups to which they apply. Especially when those groups interact.
The human animal is amazing! The only thing most people agree on is violence is required to move society in any significant direction. That tells you everything you need to know about humans.
Well I don’t like social democrats at all because they’re always contriving new lies and smears to divert attention from their awful pro-capitalist politics.
The social democrats were murdering the communists, while the KPD stood firmly against Hitler and the Nazis. The SPD endorsed Hindenburg, who won, and subsequently gave power to Hitler.
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Class struggle is intrinsic to communism, it’s important to show the working classes that our collective enemy isn’t each other, but the capitalists and the capitalist state. We need to align the working classes against our shared class enemy, not try to ally with those who support the systems supporting our class enemies.
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I’m referring to communism as the movement, not as communism the mode of production. In the far future where communism is achieved, there wouldn’t be individuals propagandized against communism, the lengthy process of getting there is through socialism by which point those contradictions are worked out.
In the present day, capitalists are the enemy of the working classes. Trying to unite the working classes against them and their enablers, ie the GOP, DNC, etc, is a progressive struggle.
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You’re entirely confused. I live in the US Empire, of course I know people raised in capitalism. I’m not calling the working class my enemy, I’m calling for the working class to directly combat the DNC, GOP, and the entire capitalist class. I’m not conflating those who side with the capitalists despite being working class with the capitalist class, but recognizing that we need to do our best to show them who their actual enemies are and organize them.
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It isn’t demonizing them, but explaining that communists are hated just for wanting a better world, which is true.
I think you misunderstood what they meant, when they said “capitalists” they meant those who own the capital and such, not people who believe capitalism works and socialism doesn’t. Propagandized individuals are only capitalists if they own capital.
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I agree with you, but also the communist bad vs capitalist bad meme war and the corresponding comments are the only reason I’m still on the fediverse.
With no conservative presence to speak of, you get to see why no unity is possible between groups of any significant size. Leftists will continue to shatter into smaller groups and those groups will vie for dominance inside of the movement. Each group will develop purity tests to identify members.
Even amongst groups of capitalists, even amongst groups of communists, even amongst groups of lgbtq+ people and the sub groups to which they apply. Especially when those groups interact.
The human animal is amazing! The only thing most people agree on is violence is required to move society in any significant direction. That tells you everything you need to know about humans.
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the social Democrats enabled fascism the whole way; they literally had right wing paramilitaries kill their left wing opposition.
you clearly would rather be goose stepping
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“literally” lmao - spoiler they didn’t
The SPD endorsed the ‘lesser evil’ conservative candidate who went on to hand over power to Hitler.
They also killed a ton of communists, all of the above is probably why you have a soft spot for them
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feel free to provide them.
Well I don’t like social democrats at all because they’re always contriving new lies and smears to divert attention from their awful pro-capitalist politics.
The social democrats were murdering the communists, while the KPD stood firmly against Hitler and the Nazis. The SPD endorsed Hindenburg, who won, and subsequently gave power to Hitler.