It only includes sites where the server-side language can be detected. That’s often easy with PHP because of URLs ending in .php and well-known software like Wordpress which identifies itself in ways that are easy for a crawler to detect.
It counts sites, not traffic. There are a lot of Wordpress sites out there which get three visitors a month.
Sorry, but you’re using the fact that PHP is used by the framework that makes up about 40% of the web on its own as an argument against the claim that PHP might be on as much as 70% of all websites? That’s before you start getting into other platforms like Drupal and MediaWiki, or more general-purpose frameworks like Laravel.
It only includes sites where the server-side language can be detected. That’s often easy with PHP because of URLs ending in .php and well-known software like Wordpress which identifies itself in ways that are easy for a crawler to detect.
So there are possibly more PHP sites out there than we realize, because the ones which disguise their URLs are ambiguous
It counts sites, not traffic. There are a lot of Wordpress sites out there which get three visitors a month.
You shouldn’t be as concerned with popularity, and much more concerned with attack surface. Your argument certainly can’t be that there are thousands of idle servers out there that should no longer be maintained because no one reads the blog hosted on them?
Yk what isn’t understaffed? Other, better languages.
damn you better go tell them
Well somebody has to if people still use it
There might be “better” languages, but PHP is still used by ~70% of the web.
So what. It’s like saying hunger is good because most people are hungry.
They, notably, did not say that PHP was good.
Neither did I.
Ok, make them all change then. Exercise your authority.
Oh? No one has any so it’s important to maintain existing infrastructure for the best outcomes?
That number is a bit questionable:
.phpand well-known software like Wordpress which identifies itself in ways that are easy for a crawler to detect.Wordpress is still commonly used for e-commerce. You’re probably visiting more PHP sites than you realize.
Sorry, but you’re using the fact that PHP is used by the framework that makes up about 40% of the web on its own as an argument against the claim that PHP might be on as much as 70% of all websites? That’s before you start getting into other platforms like Drupal and MediaWiki, or more general-purpose frameworks like Laravel.
You then conveniently ignore the point that they made, which is that, by volume, there are more sites, but by traffic and load, definitely not.
Not “conveniently”. Intentionally. Because the ridiculousness of that point had already been thoroughly dismantled by another reply.
So there are possibly more PHP sites out there than we realize, because the ones which disguise their URLs are ambiguous
You shouldn’t be as concerned with popularity, and much more concerned with attack surface. Your argument certainly can’t be that there are thousands of idle servers out there that should no longer be maintained because no one reads the blog hosted on them?
I’m aware of that. I’m questioning it still being used.
A large installed base of web apps including giants like Wordpress combined with a desire not to migrate when something is working.
Of course. And that fact didn’t prevent what happened this week.
You’re right. Also, spoken language is much better than written language, let’s get rid of written language as well.
Comparing concepts to implementations.
Got a proper alternative to Nextcloud that’s not php? O.o
Right but that’s a pointless side discussion. English has fucked up grammar and spelling but it’s a major global language. Cope?