• unconsequential@slrpnk.net
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    3 hours ago

    To my knowledge none of JFKs affairs were non-consensual, with minors, nor with non-compensated women.

    Trump was friends with, and likely using his businesses to help, known child sex traffickers, raped children himself, pissed off his adult prostitutes and brags publicly and privately about his various sexual assaults.

    I mean call JFK a whore but adult sex workers and consenting movie stars really aren’t comparable. And who gives a shit about the mob? Let’s not pretend morality aligns with the law. Not all puppies and rainbows but they’re not the same.

    And I would say there was a lot of blackmail in the day. They certainly got MLK Jr. and all the JFK women talked, there were even hearings. His scandals weren’t exactly quiet. In fact they were rather well known.

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      To my knowledge none of JFKs affairs were non-consensual, with minors, nor with non-compensated women.

      Right. To your knowledge. Cause he’s 60 years down the hole in an era without the modern scale of muckraker journalism.

      Even then, you’re doing a lot of squinting to get passed how many mob employed prostitutes in the 1950s weren’t consenting, much less adults.

      And I would say there was a lot of blackmail in the day. They certainly got MLK Jr. and all the JFK women talked

      I seriously doubt they got everyone given how frequently that man fucked.

      His scandals weren’t exactly quiet.

      The press wasn’t eager to report on a beloved martyred president until 20 years after his death.

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        I mean you’re absolutely wrong. Muckraker journalism and intelligence was very alive and well in the 60’s and decades following. It’s wild to say otherwise. They all knew and they knew a lot. No one was covering for him raping women or diddling kids. Flat out. Full stop. He wasn’t even known to be particularly deviant, just slutty.

        His own socialite wife didn’t shy from making public wry remarks about her husband’s affairs and the public discussed it constantly. And these women’s accounts are very different in tone from the victims of Trump and the eye witness accounts of MEN surrounding Trump about his behavior.

        A fuckboy vs a pedophile (potentially incestuous) and multiple-time accused predator are not the same and whataboutism around that is pretty wild. It is a very disingenuous comparison.

        JFK was no saint, but he’s nothing to the level of Trump. And Epstein’s child trafficking ring is not the same as the 1950’s and 60’s mob’s prostitution activities. Some families didn’t even dabble in prostitution at all. And you can’t even compare them to today’s mob. Old families even into the 70’s and 80’s had certain standards of conduct. You can’t even start to compare them to modern global traffickers.

        Hate on JFK all you want but pretending there’s some magical missing evidence on him is such a stretch and goes against a lot of evidence of his actual conduct. His haters are many and his life is thoroughly documented. Every juicy lead followed to exhaustion in his time and after.

        Meanwhile Trump gives even his best buddies the heebie jeebies.