It’s always the paradox of tolerance with you goobers. Feel free to lay down and let facsists walk over you, but don’t you dare get in my way when I’m fighting back.
Just in case you weren’t aware, you’re not enlightened, you’re naive. You’ll be asking politely for fascism to stop as it tears down everything around you. And the worst part? You’ll look around at the chaos and go “at least I stuck to my morals”. Maybe you have nothing worth fighting for - I do. And I’ll fight in anyway that gains me ground, while you grovel for validation that you were a good little Samaritan.
Quite the keyboard warrior you are. As far as I can tell, there’s only been one Luigi, and even with him going first Americans are still too cowed to fight, INCLUDING you.
Ok, I think I dont understand your message completly.
The sympathy he gets
compared
to the sympathy for the opponents of the genocide (gaza I assume?)
On lemmy
He got none, they got some and rapidly increasingly more? Or whats your point there?
If every teenager who gives himself shity names is losing his dignity, there wont be much dignity left in the world to fight for
Edit: And before you understand this wrong. Yes he is a teenage fascist arshole who needs to be fight back. But still, as I said in another comentary: In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights. What ever he has done.
The time for being nice is long past. These fuckers aren’t just not “nice”. They’re murderous scum that enjoy making people suffer. Time for some pushback.
Mmm. cept this ain’t exactly losing “all moral standards”, just your moral standards, which the vast majority of people never held in the first place. Why are you obsessed with the idea that your way is the morally correct way? Where does that come from?
Oh fuck off with this, this POS is responsible for untold (because he helped destroy the evidence) damage to this country - the cuts he smugly helped make have resulted in actual deaths. If anyone deserved this it’s this guy. Reap what you show and all that.
If someone, who suffers under his actions, beats him up - totally understandable.
And that people who are suffering are applauding. Sure, human nature.
But still: Nobody deserves to be undignifyied.
Careful now, if your head gets any bigger you’ll risk getting all top heavy and falling off your high horse, and that would be undignified!
Seriously, why is celebrating people standing up to a truly abhorrent actor somehow problematic for you? Even the most thoughtless argument in it’s favor, that “fascists might be dissuaded by seeing there are actual consequences for their actions”, is preeeetty goddamn valid. I think you might want to unpack why you’re more eager to defend the “dIgNiTy” of a fascist POS than celebrate the introduction of positive reinforcement in said fascist’s life. Is it really important to you that this shitstain’s honor be defended? You don’t think the fascists don’t have apologists enough already, you just have to throw your support in with their cause?
Just glossing over the whole “fall off your high horse” thing: Man it kinda feels like there’s a lot you should be unpacking here.
For example, conflating fascist apologia as a facet of a desire for universal human rights is some worryingly impressive mental gymnastics. Are you sure the negative reaction your opinion has received isn’t driving you to entrench yourself so deep into your philosophical position that you’re losing sight of the values you held initially? That’s a trap I see well meaning people fall into not infrequently, when they misjudge the depth of feeling other people hold for an issue, or present a petition for peace & love without realizing how smugly condescending it might come across. Seriously, why’re you behaving like this?
No, there are no metal gymnastics needed. There are some basics rights that should always be respected.
Even if your fighting the big-time-nazi-scum-arseholes.
Go fuck your hat. This attitude is the exact reason you all got this shit stain of a situation to deal with in the first place.
I might not be a wise schoolar. But I sure as hell know how to un fuck a fuck. And talking about it and being nice to a fuck is not the way to get it fixed.
I dont judge you for beeing happy about the attack. I am judging a uploaded photo of a person laying on the floor, probably unconscious, in his own blood, with the intent of making fun of him
Because I have zero context, I am appalled at your thirty downvotes. But please reply with a news link or context so I might understand what is happening here.
There is likely no point in trying to be nice to such a person. His mindset probably sees being nice as a weakness to exploit. Ofcourse you might argue that making fun of him being beaten should be above a person who is not as simple as him, that I might agree with. But not doing this for the sake of being nice to him? Nah.
I don’t think so either. I mean why would I spend my energy to do anything positive for a person who seems completely fine with destroying thousands of people’s livelihoods all the while keeping a cocky attitude about it. The nickname that seems to be the product of a college level fraternity brain is just the icing on the top but very much helps me form this opinion too. The most I will ever do is stay neutral.
Yeah, he is an arshole. But still I think its wrong to upload a photo of him beaten up, to make fun of him.
Dont let urself drag down and keep trying to be nice - to everyone.
Edit: “Nice” is probably the wrong word. Better just respect everyones dignity.
It’s always the paradox of tolerance with you goobers. Feel free to lay down and let facsists walk over you, but don’t you dare get in my way when I’m fighting back.
Its not about not fighting back. Its about the way you fight back
Just in case you weren’t aware, you’re not enlightened, you’re naive. You’ll be asking politely for fascism to stop as it tears down everything around you. And the worst part? You’ll look around at the chaos and go “at least I stuck to my morals”. Maybe you have nothing worth fighting for - I do. And I’ll fight in anyway that gains me ground, while you grovel for validation that you were a good little Samaritan.
Quite the keyboard warrior you are. As far as I can tell, there’s only been one Luigi, and even with him going first Americans are still too cowed to fight, INCLUDING you.
If you say so :) what are you typing on again?
Compare the sympathy this smarmy little nazi pissweasel gets on lemmy to the abuse leveled at genocide opponents for the entire year of 2024.
This is absolute peak centrism.
Ok, I think I dont understand your message completly. The sympathy he gets compared to the sympathy for the opponents of the genocide (gaza I assume?) On lemmy
He got none, they got some and rapidly increasingly more? Or whats your point there?
And how is this centristic?
Ah, the Michelle Obama Doctrine - When they go low, we go high. It worked so well, it allowed the Nazis to revive and regain power.
We are not obligated to be nice to evil.
Probably nice is not the correct word. More like respecting peoples dignity.
He named himself “big balls.”
He abandoned dignity long ago.
If every teenager who gives himself shity names is losing his dignity, there wont be much dignity left in the world to fight for Edit: And before you understand this wrong. Yes he is a teenage fascist arshole who needs to be fight back. But still, as I said in another comentary: In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights. What ever he has done.
Those who refuse to respect the dignity of others, should not expect to have their dignity respected in return.
In my opionion, nobody deserves to lose all his basic human rights. What ever he has done.
The time for being nice is long past. These fuckers aren’t just not “nice”. They’re murderous scum that enjoy making people suffer. Time for some pushback.
I understand your rage. But if you let yourself dragging down, you wont be much different.
So you think that is a fight that can be won by moral superiority?
If you win a fight by losing all moral standards, I wouldnt call it a “win”
Mmm. cept this ain’t exactly losing “all moral standards”, just your moral standards, which the vast majority of people never held in the first place. Why are you obsessed with the idea that your way is the morally correct way? Where does that come from?
Oh fuck off with this, this POS is responsible for untold (because he helped destroy the evidence) damage to this country - the cuts he smugly helped make have resulted in actual deaths. If anyone deserved this it’s this guy. Reap what you show and all that.
He deserves a lot worse.
If someone, who suffers under his actions, beats him up - totally understandable. And that people who are suffering are applauding. Sure, human nature. But still: Nobody deserves to be undignifyied.
Careful now, if your head gets any bigger you’ll risk getting all top heavy and falling off your high horse, and that would be undignified!
Seriously, why is celebrating people standing up to a truly abhorrent actor somehow problematic for you? Even the most thoughtless argument in it’s favor, that “fascists might be dissuaded by seeing there are actual consequences for their actions”, is preeeetty goddamn valid. I think you might want to unpack why you’re more eager to defend the “dIgNiTy” of a fascist POS than celebrate the introduction of positive reinforcement in said fascist’s life. Is it really important to you that this shitstain’s honor be defended? You don’t think the fascists don’t have apologists enough already, you just have to throw your support in with their cause?
I felt several times and will certainly fall in the future. Thats human nature. But this wont keep me from believing in universial human rights
Just glossing over the whole “fall off your high horse” thing: Man it kinda feels like there’s a lot you should be unpacking here.
For example, conflating fascist apologia as a facet of a desire for universal human rights is some worryingly impressive mental gymnastics. Are you sure the negative reaction your opinion has received isn’t driving you to entrench yourself so deep into your philosophical position that you’re losing sight of the values you held initially? That’s a trap I see well meaning people fall into not infrequently, when they misjudge the depth of feeling other people hold for an issue, or present a petition for peace & love without realizing how smugly condescending it might come across. Seriously, why’re you behaving like this?
No, there are no metal gymnastics needed. There are some basics rights that should always be respected. Even if your fighting the big-time-nazi-scum-arseholes.
Go fuck your hat. This attitude is the exact reason you all got this shit stain of a situation to deal with in the first place.
I might not be a wise schoolar. But I sure as hell know how to un fuck a fuck. And talking about it and being nice to a fuck is not the way to get it fixed.
Source. 18years of professional un fucking fucks.
Never heard this one before.
I did fix alot of things in my life by beeing nice or at least respecting peoples dignity.
Revenge or undignifiying someone was never helpfull.
Good on you.
That said, fuck this guy and I’m glad he got his ass kicked.
I dont judge you for beeing happy about the attack. I am judging a uploaded photo of a person laying on the floor, probably unconscious, in his own blood, with the intent of making fun of him
I’m not happy per se, I’d rather this guy not be interested in stealing people’s personal data for quiet resale to private corporations.
I’m glad he’s faced consequences, as we all should expect if we do wrong by society.
Fuck that. Why be kind someone actively helping the country march towards facism?
Because I have zero context, I am appalled at your thirty downvotes. But please reply with a news link or context so I might understand what is happening here.
There is likely no point in trying to be nice to such a person. His mindset probably sees being nice as a weakness to exploit. Ofcourse you might argue that making fun of him being beaten should be above a person who is not as simple as him, that I might agree with. But not doing this for the sake of being nice to him? Nah.
I probabaly used the wrong word. Respecting his dignity is probabaly better I asume
I don’t think so either. I mean why would I spend my energy to do anything positive for a person who seems completely fine with destroying thousands of people’s livelihoods all the while keeping a cocky attitude about it. The nickname that seems to be the product of a college level fraternity brain is just the icing on the top but very much helps me form this opinion too. The most I will ever do is stay neutral.
Staying neutral is totally fine, imho.
“Neutrality” just means “we don’t care whose teeth the gold is from.”
neutrality as in if something bad were to happen to this particular person, I wouldn’t have any qualms about disregarding it.
Neutrality in case of your personal behavior to a person. I dont mean to not fight fascism or taking advantage of fascist.
But you’ll sure leap to their defense…
Hah
sticks and stones, I guess