It was more than “a few”. You can get fucked for downplaying the scale of the atrocities the british committed. The entire european economy is based on the exploitation of the global south. You can get fucked for tone-policing the anger that causes.
Ah gotcha, so a newborn in the local hospital is responsible for the atrocities committed by a man who died 60 years ago, seems logical.
I’m not downplaying anything, I’m pointing to the fact that your anger is misdirected. There are many British people that have had absolutely no say or action in any of what you’ve stated, yet you claim they should get fucked for no reason other than where they’re born.
He is 100% responsible for the actions of his ancestors because he benefits from it. If Indians have to bear the fruits of the sufferings of their ancestors, so do the British.
Return all the money and artifacts, adjusted to current valuations. Apologise in UN. Execute all your monarchy in public. Then we will start to get even.
There are many British people that have had absolutely no say or action in any of what you’ve stated, yet you claim they should get fucked for no reason other than where they’re born.
I didn’t see anyone rejecting the spoils of the plunder.
This is the same bullshit argument that is being made by the British right now about Gaza - being complicit the whole time and then trying to PR your way out of it by all of a sudden planning to declare Palestine a state.
Ah so thats your basis for responsibility, not action, but circumstances.
What if that British newborn was born to Indian parents? are they now both responsible and a victim of their own doing?
I didn’t see anyone rejecting the spoils of plunder
There are plenty here who agree with you, unfortunately they’re too busy trying to survive the same persecutions you’re angry at them for supposedly perpetrating. The working class in the UK have absolutely no say in any of what you’re campaigning about; but your narrative of “fuck British people because they were born British” does nothing but alienate them from your cause.
It becomes a case of “damned if I do, damned if I don’t”
Yes, the same working class who was not starved to death because they got food from a famine struck India. They could have easily denied eating the food and let their children starve, be the bigger person.
Ethics have never mattered to the British (and most of the world to be fair) when it benefits them.
I can’t speak for the actions of people that died a century before I existed of course, but I can near enough guarantee that neither I, nor any of my fellow working class citizens have caused any famines in India. (I say near enough; because for all I know there could be some obscure despot running around who just so happens to be from a working class village in Scotland or some shit).
I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement. It is a human condition ultimately; we’re seeing the same situation out in the states, where a lot of immigrant families voted in favour of tighter immigration (the “fuck you I got mine” mentality). I suppose you could argue it’s due to Americanisation of the people who have migrated, but to me it just highlights the fact that morality isn’t based on nationality. I believe brandishing any nationality/ethnicity or race as anything other than human only perpetuates ‘us and them’ mentalities, and I believe it’s by design.
Until the world wakes up and realises it’s not north Vs south or east Vs west; but rather rich Vs poor, nothing will change.
…which describes the British vs. India you fuck. The UK plunders the global south, then uses those resources to build the infrastructure you use and the food you buy.
It describes a subset of the British population… Which is what this entire conversation has been about.
The rich get it, that’s why Epstein island has people like prince Andrew as well as sheiks from Dubai; affluence has no borders, and they use borders to keep everyone else fighting among one another, rather than dealing with them directly.
And you’re a perfect example of just how effective it is.
Yet according to you, the people at these food banks owe those 100 people who have a combined wealth of $1.1 trillion dollars, due to respective nationalities.
It was more than “a few”. You can get fucked for downplaying the scale of the atrocities the british committed. The entire european economy is based on the exploitation of the global south. You can get fucked for tone-policing the anger that causes.
Ah gotcha, so a newborn in the local hospital is responsible for the atrocities committed by a man who died 60 years ago, seems logical.
I’m not downplaying anything, I’m pointing to the fact that your anger is misdirected. There are many British people that have had absolutely no say or action in any of what you’ve stated, yet you claim they should get fucked for no reason other than where they’re born.
Currently alive English people are responsible for not prosecuting Tony Blair after the Chilcot Report. Tony Blair is still alive. Get on it.
Yeah your right, Scotland, Ireland and Wales had no say, not fuck Britain, fuck England
He is 100% responsible for the actions of his ancestors because he benefits from it. If Indians have to bear the fruits of the sufferings of their ancestors, so do the British.
Return all the money and artifacts, adjusted to current valuations. Apologise in UN. Execute all your monarchy in public. Then we will start to get even.
I didn’t see anyone rejecting the spoils of the plunder.
This is the same bullshit argument that is being made by the British right now about Gaza - being complicit the whole time and then trying to PR your way out of it by all of a sudden planning to declare Palestine a state.
Ah so thats your basis for responsibility, not action, but circumstances.
What if that British newborn was born to Indian parents? are they now both responsible and a victim of their own doing?
There are plenty here who agree with you, unfortunately they’re too busy trying to survive the same persecutions you’re angry at them for supposedly perpetrating. The working class in the UK have absolutely no say in any of what you’re campaigning about; but your narrative of “fuck British people because they were born British” does nothing but alienate them from your cause.
It becomes a case of “damned if I do, damned if I don’t”
Yes, the same working class who was not starved to death because they got food from a famine struck India. They could have easily denied eating the food and let their children starve, be the bigger person.
Ethics have never mattered to the British (and most of the world to be fair) when it benefits them.
I can’t speak for the actions of people that died a century before I existed of course, but I can near enough guarantee that neither I, nor any of my fellow working class citizens have caused any famines in India. (I say near enough; because for all I know there could be some obscure despot running around who just so happens to be from a working class village in Scotland or some shit).
I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement. It is a human condition ultimately; we’re seeing the same situation out in the states, where a lot of immigrant families voted in favour of tighter immigration (the “fuck you I got mine” mentality). I suppose you could argue it’s due to Americanisation of the people who have migrated, but to me it just highlights the fact that morality isn’t based on nationality. I believe brandishing any nationality/ethnicity or race as anything other than human only perpetuates ‘us and them’ mentalities, and I believe it’s by design.
Until the world wakes up and realises it’s not north Vs south or east Vs west; but rather rich Vs poor, nothing will change.
…which describes the British vs. India you fuck. The UK plunders the global south, then uses those resources to build the infrastructure you use and the food you buy.
“Racist towards the British” my ass.
It describes a subset of the British population… Which is what this entire conversation has been about.
The rich get it, that’s why Epstein island has people like prince Andrew as well as sheiks from Dubai; affluence has no borders, and they use borders to keep everyone else fighting among one another, rather than dealing with them directly.
And you’re a perfect example of just how effective it is.
Evidence of rich people in India: https://www.forbesindia.com/lists/rich-list-2024/.
Evidence of poor people in Britain: https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/food-banks/.
Yet according to you, the people at these food banks owe those 100 people who have a combined wealth of $1.1 trillion dollars, due to respective nationalities.