• Javi@feddit.uk
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    Ah so thats your basis for responsibility, not action, but circumstances.

    What if that British newborn was born to Indian parents? are they now both responsible and a victim of their own doing?

    I didn’t see anyone rejecting the spoils of plunder

    There are plenty here who agree with you, unfortunately they’re too busy trying to survive the same persecutions you’re angry at them for supposedly perpetrating. The working class in the UK have absolutely no say in any of what you’re campaigning about; but your narrative of “fuck British people because they were born British” does nothing but alienate them from your cause.

    It becomes a case of “damned if I do, damned if I don’t”

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      Yes, the same working class who was not starved to death because they got food from a famine struck India. They could have easily denied eating the food and let their children starve, be the bigger person.

      Ethics have never mattered to the British (and most of the world to be fair) when it benefits them.

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        I can’t speak for the actions of people that died a century before I existed of course, but I can near enough guarantee that neither I, nor any of my fellow working class citizens have caused any famines in India. (I say near enough; because for all I know there could be some obscure despot running around who just so happens to be from a working class village in Scotland or some shit).

        I wholeheartedly agree with the last statement. It is a human condition ultimately; we’re seeing the same situation out in the states, where a lot of immigrant families voted in favour of tighter immigration (the “fuck you I got mine” mentality). I suppose you could argue it’s due to Americanisation of the people who have migrated, but to me it just highlights the fact that morality isn’t based on nationality. I believe brandishing any nationality/ethnicity or race as anything other than human only perpetuates ‘us and them’ mentalities, and I believe it’s by design.

        Until the world wakes up and realises it’s not north Vs south or east Vs west; but rather rich Vs poor, nothing will change.

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          but rather rich Vs poor

          …which describes the British vs. India you fuck. The UK plunders the global south, then uses those resources to build the infrastructure you use and the food you buy.

          “Racist towards the British” my ass.

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            It describes a subset of the British population… Which is what this entire conversation has been about.

            The rich get it, that’s why Epstein island has people like prince Andrew as well as sheiks from Dubai; affluence has no borders, and they use borders to keep everyone else fighting among one another, rather than dealing with them directly.

            And you’re a perfect example of just how effective it is.

            Evidence of rich people in India: https://www.forbesindia.com/lists/rich-list-2024/.

            Evidence of poor people in Britain: https://www.politics.co.uk/reference/food-banks/.

            Yet according to you, the people at these food banks owe those 100 people who have a combined wealth of $1.1 trillion dollars, due to respective nationalities.