• glitchdx@lemmy.world
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      I’ve never had issues with getting refunds through steam. I’ve never successfully gotten a refund through epic.

      you can enjoy your free games if you want, but it isn’t a better service and pretending otherwise is delusional.

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        Which one killed competition with anti consumer practices in the 2000’s?

        Which one popularised micro transactions?

        Which one popularised loot boxes and gambling?

        Which one popularised the current “Sell now, fix later” model

        Which one bricks older titles because of it’s DRM requirements

        (The answer is Steam btw, I know I’ll need to spell it out for G*mers)

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          If they killed competition they did a terrible job as there is more now then ever.

          Microsoft popularised micro transactions, however they were never used, but DLC which they also popularised along with Sega and Sony adopted that name. Microtranactions were renting software where every time you opened the software or used a specific feature you would be charged a part of a cent, i.e. microtransactions

          Loot boxes came from MMOs. The gambling thing Valve has certainly been a leader in.

          Sell now fix later, EA and Ubisoft.

          Anything with DRM can stop older titles, Steam included. However this is normally after decades of use. This is why many people buy Single player games on GOG.

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          I’ll add they only offer refunds because the EU forced them and that at the time even EA offered better refunds, I don’t know now because I am detached from gaming these days.

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          It’s not even the worst. If Epic goes down, you have lost everything. If Steam goes down you have lost everything. If Gog goes down you have lost nothing (because you have a backup I hope).

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          Which one killed competition with anti consumer practices in the 2000’s?

          Epic has even more anti-consumer practices.

          Which one popularised micro transactions?

          Does Epic ban micro transactions?

          Which one popularised loot boxes and gambling?

          None of this available on EGS either?

          Which one popularised the current “Sell now, fix later” model

          “The service that was around first did these things that the service that came later is also doing, that makes the service that came later better for some reason!”

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              23 hours ago

              Imagine being so full of yourself that you think saying nothing has any value.

              Fun fact: the term “Stockholm syndrome” originates from a hostage situation in which the authorities did not seem to care about the safety of the hostages at all, they regularly put the hostages in danger and the hostage takers were frequently trying to protect the hostages from the actions of the authorities.
              In light of that, the hostages having more empathy towards their captors makes perfect sense. However ignorant people who did not understand the details of the event coined the term “Stockholm syndrome” instead of actually listening to the hostages or trying to understand a different point of view.

              Your use of the term feels very appropriate.

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          17 hours ago

          The comment says monopolistic. Epic games does exclusives on PC. Does steam do this? Which one is monopolistic?

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            I get what you’re trying to say but that’s not what monopolistic means.

            and comparing a new entrant to an established near-monopoly is ridiculous. does steam do this? no, why would it, most games are pretty much already exclusive to steam anyway. that’s not an apt comparison.

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          Dude can’t even spell “Gamers” and is complaining other people aren’t smart…