• ‮redirtSdeR@lemmy.world
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    My experience with Gemini:

    Hey Google, set a timer for 5 minutes.

    Gemini: I’m sorry, I don’t understand.

    WTF is the point of it then?

    Imagine taking away the only useful feature of a voice assistant 💀

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      My recent experience with my phone is I tell it to set a 5 minute timer and it sets one in the fucking Google search browser, and if I page away I lose the timer.

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      me too and then it somehow popped up in messages which I had to “turn off” separately. removing AI from an Android phone is an illusion.

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    10 hours ago

    Narrator: And users did not in fact, take action.

    It’ll just be one more thing for them to complain and do nothing about. That is all.

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      Most people wont even notice. My non techy friends love their new Pixel phones and all the AI assistance.

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      I believe /e/OS supports a broader range of devices, and it’s also pretty great in my experience. The focus is on getting rid of google (replacing all services with MicroG and nextcloud integration) and blocking trackers while providing a smooth user experience, so it’s security features are not as over the top as Graphene. It’s still a huge freaking improvement over stock Android though, and I find it to be a joy to use.

      On devices supported by the online installer it can be up an running in like 30 minutes, no technical skills required. :)

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        This… Except for contactless payment.
        I used graphene for a month. It was lovely. Even things like banking apps worked.
        I don’t care about absolute privacy, but I do care about controlling my privacy. Grapheme gave me that.

        I had only 1 issue.
        Contactless payment.
        It’s extremely convenient to me, from public transport to groceries. I just bop my phone.

        The fact that Google has that locked down surely violates some EU laws. But I’m sure they wave away the laws because of “financial security” or some other bullshit.
        As if bank card NFC/contactless doesn’t suffer exactly the same issues.
        I looked into some “graphene contactless payment” type systems or workarounds, and I couldn’t find anything that would fill the gap.

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          I hear so many people praise paying with their phones, and there I am, so happy that I can leave my phone at home when shopping. Each to their own I guess.

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          5 hours ago

          This may seem like a silly solution but maybe pop your debit card inside your phone case. It should bop through it.

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            Yup, true.

            But contactless via a phone can have no limit.
            Adding a debit card to phone case means the upper limit is £100. Which is actually fine, and is the limit I have normally set for phone contactless. But I can instantly remove that limit via my banking app.

            And the phone needs to be unlocked to make a payment.
            Do if I lose my phone anyone can charge £100 to the debit card.

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              3 hours ago

              Yeah, all fair points. I do love the convenience of using my phone to pay too in fairness.

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          I was hesitating due to this as well, until I realized that my payments are something I want google to have data on least of all. So I got a debit card and turns out it is no inconvenience at all.

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          9 hours ago

          Try Curve Pay. Just learned about it yesterday. I added my credit card and it just works. Couldn’t be happier.

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            I’m always nervous about fintech companies. Maybe it’s time to get over that and give curve pay a spin.
            The cashback seems nice, considering a lot of shops I use are on there.

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            Looks awesome, but unfortunately seems to only be for the UK and EU. I wish the US market would get something similar.

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          10 hours ago

          That is literally the only thing keeping me from installing Graphene on my phone.

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        11 hours ago

        So you regret it every day? GOS is amazing in my opinion. What’s your gripe with it?

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        9 hours ago

        I installed GrapheneOS for the security and lack of Google. I didn’t know it was a very nice stock Android without any crap. I love it.

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          Main things holding me back are the apps I already paid for on Google Play, and tap to pay.

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            7 hours ago

            Tap to pay is not there. But you can install the Play Store and install all your paid applications, that’s what I did.

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                Everything is sandboxed but I don’t have all the details. You don’t actively turn any sandbox on or off, it’s always there IIRC.

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                I’m not trying to convince you but I was paying for everything with my phone, it was the most important feature. After installing GrapheneOS, i got control back and piece of mind, and I dont miss tap to pay.

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          11 hours ago

          What I’m curious is what kind of ball are you shaped like?

          A golf ball? With divots all over your skin? A basketball? Just round? A baseball? With stitches all over your skin like later years Chucky? A football? Are you Stewie Griffen? Testicles? Wait, are you saying your whole body is one big testicle? Oh my god, the Iron Shiek wasn’t speaking broken english! He was just talking about you!!! “I hit him right in the ball this big!”

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            10 hours ago

            Lol! ❤️ run on rants.

            And I used to be quite overweight with a large gut. My kids used to say I was 19 months pregnant. The weight is gone but I kept the name.

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      Except Apple has better marketing, and is primarily marketed for those who’re excited for every tech “innovation”.

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      Yes, for the amount of hate Google gets… Which I think it is fair to be critical of any product that compromises privacy… I recently tried helping my mom clean up her iPhone, and seriously like 100x worse. Almost everything you do on Apple demands you have another Apple device. One of the worst experiences I’ve ever dealt with.

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        Isn’t there some form of sampling bias here though? The kind of people who generally would care about these things likely also care about interoperability and would be on Android. I wouldn’t be surprised if iPhone users simply don’t care if Apple demands them to do anything.

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    Remember when iPhone was the bad guy amongst these kids? But I guess as long as it has more options, surely it’s better!

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    I mean, Google Assistant is getting replaced with Gemini and so far that was the biggest pain point of mine: No I don’t want to turn on Gemini activity history, yes I still want to be able to make calls with it…

    This is nicer, imo. You can just not have Gemini app to not let this happen. 72 hour retention is pretty standard, if not better than most of free LLM providers. I hate Google with passion and I try to avoid them as much as possible but Gemini is just so darn easy to use. I also use Kagi and their assistant does most of the heavy lifting & privacy concerning.