• Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Sucks to be on the wrong side of history. No one wants to loose their communities, property or livelihoods. However the Jews had a claim to the area going back thousands of years and they needed to go somewhere.

    There were many Jewish communities across the Middle East prior to the 1940s that no longer exist anymore either. I wonder who pushed them out… do they get the same sentiment from your bleeding heart?

    There have been two state solutions on the table with Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital on the table multiple times. Palestinians turned every one of them down. Instead of building their own state they will be further pushed out of Gaza. Where they go is anyones guess no one wants them, especially other Muslim states.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution

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      10 months ago

      That’s funny that you think you’re on the right side of history for supporting a genocidal ethnostate.

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        10 months ago

        I guess we’ll see in 50 years which nation still exists.

        Looks at all of Palestine’s immediate neighbors in the Middle East who won’t even lift a finger to even admit refugees.

        I think I know where I’ll put my money.

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          10 months ago

          Might makes right, huh? I already know Palestine will be completely ethnically cleansed and then israel will move onto taking parts of Syria and other countries in their goal of lebensraum. That doesn’t mean it’s morally right.

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            10 months ago

            You either didn’t read my comment from earlier in the thread or you enjoy trying to frame an argument.

            I’ll post it below for you to read and educate yourself.

            There have been two state solutions on the table with Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital on the table multiple times. Palestinians turned every one of them down. Instead of building their own state they will be further pushed out of Gaza. Where they go is anyones guess no one wants them, especially other Muslim states.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-state_solution

            TLDR: Palestine will be wiped of the map unless they choose a different path. Israel isn’t going anywhere.

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              The negotiations were argued in bad faith. Israel would put forth ridiculous demands and then lay the blame on Palestine for rejecting them. Why do you think Palestinians are being pushed out of Gaza and have been continually and constantly pushed out for decades? There was never a sincere effort for a two-state solution.

              Nobody wants to take on many refugees all at once, it’s very difficult to manage. Why do you think Britain “volunteered” Palestinian land to relocate Jews out of Europe? It wasn’t out of the goodness of their heart.

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                10 months ago

                No response to this of course. Don’t even expect one. They are currently with their fingers in their ears yelling “LALALLALALALA”

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                  10 months ago

                  There’s literally a response just below yours, but of course taking the time to make sure you’re actually right is never a strong point for you people.

                  I personally find it very funny that the pro-Palestinian go-to is that none of the offers Israel made for a 2 state solution were ‘realistic’ or ‘serious’ or ‘good faith’. No one doubts that there were offers. Tell me, in what other scenario in all of human history do the losers of a war (that they started) get to dictate the terms of their surrender?

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        10 months ago

        What’s the ethnic makeup of Israel? What’s the ethnic makeup of Palestine? Which one is closer to the definition of an ethno state? Do words not mean anything to you?

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          You’re granted citizenship automatically if you’re Jewish and you get a free trip to go there. Being Jewish grants one special privileges. The country is based entirely on ethnicity and was established with that as a core principle. If it’s not technically considered an ethnostate, it’s about the closest that a country can be one without being one in that case.