I bet you money I can make a joke that you will not enjoy/will upset you. Use your imagination. Your line for “too far” is not the universal standard, so don’t treat people like they’re wrong just because they don’t share your exact level of tolerance and exact same list of subjects available for humor.
I don’t post my dissent because I have no sense of humor or because I expect people to universally agree with my own sense of humor. I posted this because I hoped some people would think, “huh, maybe I shouldn’t post jokes that further propagate the harms caused by patriarchy when there are plenty of other jokes I can make or ways I can phrase the same joke that aren’t at the expense of those around me.”
Maybe I want to live in a world where women are treated with the same respect as men. Part of making that change is not continuing to use language that is harmful towards them and calling out others for it when I see it.
TLDR: Do better OP. The bar is on the floor and you and everyone upvoting you still somehow missed it.
Appreciate the kind words! I feel like it’s one of those things where people are so caught up in the politics they are not thinking about the nuts and bolts or using their imagination.
Should I make rape jokes around a survivor? Should I set off fireworks or pop balloons around a soldier with PTSD? How about make 9/11 jokes at a firefighter who lost friends that day and barely survived? Nobody would hesitate to tell me to stop and that it’s not funny. I t be socially tarred and feathered. But I guarantee you there people out there who think those things are hilarious! So who decides?
It boils down to mutual respect. Simple as that. If somebody asks you to stop, just stop. You are not entitled to an explanation and they do not have to convince you in order for you to show them that you respect them and their dignity as a person. That’s ridiculous.
So if I set off fireworks next to a soldier suffering PTSD from an IED that killed his squad and maimed him for life because I think it’s hysterical then I’m all clear?
If I run up to a sexual assault survivor and tell them “get raped” and laugh to an audience I’m shielded by “it’s a joke bro it’s hilarious”?
When fraternities showed up to a women’s clinic with torches at night shouting “no means yes, yes means anal” it was all good because a joke’s a joke right?
No imagination, no empathy. Same nonsense over and over.
Haha, casual sexism is funny when it’s a sibling!
it absolutely can be. lots of folks have a sense of humor, you should look into getting one for yourself
I bet you money I can make a joke that you will not enjoy/will upset you. Use your imagination. Your line for “too far” is not the universal standard, so don’t treat people like they’re wrong just because they don’t share your exact level of tolerance and exact same list of subjects available for humor.
Thank you! What a reasonable take.
I don’t post my dissent because I have no sense of humor or because I expect people to universally agree with my own sense of humor. I posted this because I hoped some people would think, “huh, maybe I shouldn’t post jokes that further propagate the harms caused by patriarchy when there are plenty of other jokes I can make or ways I can phrase the same joke that aren’t at the expense of those around me.”
Maybe I want to live in a world where women are treated with the same respect as men. Part of making that change is not continuing to use language that is harmful towards them and calling out others for it when I see it.
TLDR: Do better OP. The bar is on the floor and you and everyone upvoting you still somehow missed it.
Appreciate the kind words! I feel like it’s one of those things where people are so caught up in the politics they are not thinking about the nuts and bolts or using their imagination.
Should I make rape jokes around a survivor? Should I set off fireworks or pop balloons around a soldier with PTSD? How about make 9/11 jokes at a firefighter who lost friends that day and barely survived? Nobody would hesitate to tell me to stop and that it’s not funny. I t be socially tarred and feathered. But I guarantee you there people out there who think those things are hilarious! So who decides?
It boils down to mutual respect. Simple as that. If somebody asks you to stop, just stop. You are not entitled to an explanation and they do not have to convince you in order for you to show them that you respect them and their dignity as a person. That’s ridiculous.
I’ll take that bet hombre 😉
Jokes is jokes
So if I set off fireworks next to a soldier suffering PTSD from an IED that killed his squad and maimed him for life because I think it’s hysterical then I’m all clear?
If I run up to a sexual assault survivor and tell them “get raped” and laugh to an audience I’m shielded by “it’s a joke bro it’s hilarious”?
When fraternities showed up to a women’s clinic with torches at night shouting “no means yes, yes means anal” it was all good because a joke’s a joke right?
No imagination, no empathy. Same nonsense over and over.
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