Exactly, this is equivalent to using a password of a particular length with only hex digits. It may be long, but the original data is completely unnecessary here.
It prevents cross-service re-use, should the original password hash be obtained (if other services used the same system).
Example (MD5 in b64 used for simplicity):
Same password is used on website1 and website2. The password is password. password produces KGdV+tBIacpSMyCszg3GpA== which can be used for both websites.
Now, if website1 adds sbo2 as salt, and website2 addsx3e5, you get: passwordsbo2 -> d0bd511zpYqG3//3vLGYRQ== passwordx3e5 -> 788BnQKx7B2KOSju2jviiQ==
So if you are on a corporate network that does MITM (you had to add their root cert) for monitoring, they’ll only see a hash for each website separately, without being able to re-use it.
Though that’s quite a bit of an edge case, and assumes no client modification or other monitoring.
True, I got engrossed in thinking through your proposal and forgotten about the original intent of a salt. Happens to me from time to time, particularly with security topics for some reason.
Exactly, this is equivalent to using a password of a particular length with only hex digits. It may be long, but the original data is completely unnecessary here.
It prevents cross-service re-use, should the original password hash be obtained (if other services used the same system).
Example (MD5 in b64 used for simplicity): Same password is used on website1 and website2. The password is
password.passwordproducesKGdV+tBIacpSMyCszg3GpA==which can be used for both websites.Now, if website1 adds
sbo2as salt, and website2 addsx3e5, you get:passwordsbo2->d0bd511zpYqG3//3vLGYRQ==passwordx3e5->788BnQKx7B2KOSju2jviiQ==So if you are on a corporate network that does MITM (you had to add their root cert) for monitoring, they’ll only see a hash for each website separately, without being able to re-use it.
Though that’s quite a bit of an edge case, and assumes no client modification or other monitoring.
True, I got engrossed in thinking through your proposal and forgotten about the original intent of a salt. Happens to me from time to time, particularly with security topics for some reason.