• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    Both sides bad! Billionaires fund both sides to the same degree. Minorities just need to roll over and give up rights

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      Except liberals aren’t “the left”. Liberals are center or center-left at best. Liberals are funded by the same entities as the right is, yes, but this distinction is important, lol

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        Which country’s Liberal Party are you talking about? Because that’s definitely not what the word liberal on its own means.

        Whats your opinion on NATO?

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            Liberalism is the advocacy for human rights and freedoms so long as they don’t impede upon the rights and freedoms of others. In practice it requires a democratic state to enforce equal treatment and freedoms. Examples such as making slavery and segregation illegal, taxing inheritance and estates, mandating equal housing and employment opportunity, or covering the expenses of impoverished citizen’s medical and education.

            It’s had the similar definition of “promotes freedom” for thousands of years and in early 20th century France the words liberalism and neoliberalism were commonly used to describe a system of fair and regulated markets distinctly distant from laissez-faire and socialism.

            The most common opponents to Liberalism and Liberals are Tankies, who support eastern bloc dictatorships, and Conservatives, who support western bloc dictatorships. Because of this I automatically assume people who use liberal or neoliberal as a slur are opponents of human rights.

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          I’m not talking about any country’s liberal party. I’m talking about neoliberals. In the U.S., they are often misidentified as being “the left”.

          And regarding NATO, I am against it as a specific entity, but I think that some of its functions are important and should not be lost if it is ever dismantled.

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                You openly promote WWIII and oppose advocates for human rights, I don’t see any need to discuss anything further with a Tankie like yourself. Xi Jinping can suck a dick.

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                    Usually how it goes with Tankies. They start of with “oh these capitalist billionaires suck balls, amirite?” and then the next thing you know they’re trying to convince you to enlist to fight for Russia.

                    NATO is always a great phrase to sort the wheat from the chaff. Any Anarchist or Democratic Socialist with two brain cells to rub together sees that a mutual defense pact just makes sense and has prevented war and will prevent further war. But Tankies? They fucking hate that shit with a burning passion, because it prevents expansion by Russia and China.