Ah yes the classic refrain of libs when the obvious farce of electorialism is critiqued: “Ok then start a revolution RIGHT NOW!” or “Okay then go out and kill all rich people yourself this very instance!!”
Somehow you understand the concept of long-term thinking when it comes to kicking the can down the road, but not when it comes to trying anything else.
I’m not a Lib, lol!
But staying home doesn’t work - and telling people to do so just promotes apathy. Then we end up with fascists in power and friends being rounded up.
I’ll choose the lesser of two evils every fucking time when given a choice - especially when the 3rd option is to just sit on my ass at home.
There are many other options besides sitting on your ass at home… is that what you do every other day of the year that isn’t voting day?
Also I’d like to add that democrats literally rounded up some of my friends thru ICE. It’s no different when Obama/Biden/Harris does it than when Trump does, Midwest (typically Mexican midwesterners) always gets hit super hard by ICE raids no matter who is president.
True - but the quote didn’t say “go do stuff in the community, spread awareness, lead thru example!” it said “don’t bother voting, and if you do then you’re a class traitor.”
I agree that the Dems /also/ suck. But the degrees of suck matter. It’s similar to equating cancer with the flu - They both suck, but given a choice, I know which I’d prefer.
Even tho you’re banned I’d like to point out that I didn’t imply what you meant, YOU are the one that applied “laziness” to the quote, and then as a response you made up your own version of the quote saying that voting and staying home (“being lazy”) are your only 2 options.
Donate money to REAL local orgs (not DSA), your local food shelf, etc. If you can’t afford money then you can always try to afford the time. Show up and feed some people or put a little bit of money on it, most food shelves have a subscription based thing so you can ditch Prime/HBO and use that money on your food shelf; anonymously or with your name in big big lights, whatever you prefer.
I’m saying anyone listening to his shitty advice is a lazy fuckwit. I don’t know or care who he is - but abstaining from voting is how we end up with fascists and antisocial capitalists in power.
I’d rather be a “class traitor” than see my friends get marginalized and put in cages because I sat on my ass and didn’t vote.
His input clearly wasn’t very effective. The US is basically an openly fascist state at this point, and the only “friends” it acknowledges are Russia and North Korea - so the whole “don’t bother voting” advice seems to be working exactly as well as expected.
Such a stupid fucking take. Vote, or bulld a guillotine - but don’t stay home, you lazy fuckwits!
Ah yes the classic refrain of libs when the obvious farce of electorialism is critiqued: “Ok then start a revolution RIGHT NOW!” or “Okay then go out and kill all rich people yourself this very instance!!”
Somehow you understand the concept of long-term thinking when it comes to kicking the can down the road, but not when it comes to trying anything else.
I’m not a Lib, lol! But staying home doesn’t work - and telling people to do so just promotes apathy. Then we end up with fascists in power and friends being rounded up. I’ll choose the lesser of two evils every fucking time when given a choice - especially when the 3rd option is to just sit on my ass at home.
There are many other options besides sitting on your ass at home… is that what you do every other day of the year that isn’t voting day?
Also I’d like to add that democrats literally rounded up some of my friends thru ICE. It’s no different when Obama/Biden/Harris does it than when Trump does, Midwest (typically Mexican midwesterners) always gets hit super hard by ICE raids no matter who is president.
True - but the quote didn’t say “go do stuff in the community, spread awareness, lead thru example!” it said “don’t bother voting, and if you do then you’re a class traitor.”
I agree that the Dems /also/ suck. But the degrees of suck matter. It’s similar to equating cancer with the flu - They both suck, but given a choice, I know which I’d prefer.
More like the flu for you or cancer for two million other people. Given the choice, we know which you prefer.
Even tho you’re banned I’d like to point out that I didn’t imply what you meant, YOU are the one that applied “laziness” to the quote, and then as a response you made up your own version of the quote saying that voting and staying home (“being lazy”) are your only 2 options.
Donate money to REAL local orgs (not DSA), your local food shelf, etc. If you can’t afford money then you can always try to afford the time. Show up and feed some people or put a little bit of money on it, most food shelves have a subscription based thing so you can ditch Prime/HBO and use that money on your food shelf; anonymously or with your name in big big lights, whatever you prefer.
You are a lib. They are both fascists.
Imagine calling Eugene Debs a lazy fuckwit
I’m saying anyone listening to his shitty advice is a lazy fuckwit. I don’t know or care who he is - but abstaining from voting is how we end up with fascists and antisocial capitalists in power.
I’d rather be a “class traitor” than see my friends get marginalized and put in cages because I sat on my ass and didn’t vote.
Imagine not caring about one of the most influential people in US Progressive political history.
I’m not American, lol!
Considering how the US was leading the labor movement in the West during his lifetime, it’s still a problem that you don’t know who he is.
His input clearly wasn’t very effective. The US is basically an openly fascist state at this point, and the only “friends” it acknowledges are Russia and North Korea - so the whole “don’t bother voting” advice seems to be working exactly as well as expected.
deeply unserious
Show me all the evidence you needed to ignore to get to “usa is friends with russia”
There’s no conversation to be had here if you refuse to be informed about his life and works while commenting on it.
you don’t have to imagine it – they literally put it in writing :p