• LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Anyone advocating for not voting is advocating for fascism.

    Don’t only vote. But fucking vote.

    • sushi [she/her]@lemmy.ml
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      The United States has a uniparty; all voting does is change the decal on the genocide machine. Vote if you want, I don’t really care, but don’t act like it does anything of substance.

      Don’t only vote. But fucking vote.

      libbing-out

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        2 days ago

        Bullshit. In the generals, sure. But not in the primaries, where it actually matters, and that’s how you get better candidates in the general. Mamdami proved this.

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          Most states have cheating in the primaries, both parties: unless you are lucky to live in a state that uses a voting system which prevents that.

          What is the purpose of participating in a primary unless the votes are transparently counted and recounted by humans who are witnessed by representatives of the candidates?

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            If it is to raise awareness of the cheating, then some participation maybe good? Like, if the candidate or party/org is allowed to point at the the problematic voting system and propose changes etc as part of campaign promotion.

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              I would be totally behind raising awareness of proper vote counting with paper ballots; except that is what I did for years in my state, at first inside the Democratic Party ; then later when that had no traction, outside of it.

              There is zero demand or push for better vote counting that I saw in the progressive wings of the Democratic Party. And equally few cares given by people in the republican side.

              I spoke to activists in minority communities and there is zero momentum there, and no appetite to take that on.

              In fact, it was such a sad experience for me, that it’s what inspired me to become a communist.

              I’ve experienced trying to raise awareness and it only raised my awareness, not others.

        • EmmiLime@lemmy.ml
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          What the fuck are you trying to say? Genocide is being treated as a bipartisan issue in the name of voting democrats. Who gets the cookie? is it crackers for the cracKKKers? You’re vile that you completely wrote off the Palestinians if it means you get that cookie. Disgusting.

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              both sides don’t give a shit about some mostly homeless people on the other side of the world.

              LMFAO what a mask off. Talk about dehumanizing the pain and misery your country inflicts on the rest of the world as “some mostly homeless people”

              Have you considered following your leader?

      • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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        If both sides are genocide, but one side is genocide both at home and abroad, ushering in a literal apocalypse on the fronts of education, lgbtq rights, removing the human rights of your neighbours, skyrocketing costs and decimating your savings, ushering in a religious autocracy, and killing the planet even more, is this a hard choice?

        Both sides may be a shit sandwich, but one side is a shit sandwich with human rights and who have shown they can be pressured to have less shit, and the other is double shit and everyone dies with strip mining in the meantime, but both sides are the same?

        Are you even serious?

        • BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.mlBanned
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          /> Human rights

          • Every regime has deported more people than the previous regime
          • All Kamala could say about trans people was that “they should follow the law”
          • Every regime has increased police funding and expanded the carceral state.
          • Roe v Wade was overturned under Joe Biden, who did fuck all to stop it
          • Roe v Wade could have been enshrined, or whatever the fuck the word is, under Obama
          • Obama was the one who expanded ICEs budget and purview
          • Joe Biden was a fervent supporter of Israel
          • Joe Biden sicced cops on peaceful protesters
          • Joe Biden had people disappeared in black vans during the riots in 2020

          What human rights?

          Your argument seems to be “well they’re not throwing me in the camps” but seems like they’re well on their way to doing exactly that and you’re just strengthening them.

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          one side is a shit sandwich with human rights

          Your daily reminder that western shitlibs don’t consider Palestinians human

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          That’s a lot of words for “first they came for the Palestinians, and I threw their asses under the bus because they’re not me.”

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          Are you even serious?

          are you serious? 99% Hitler vs 100% Hitler? Except you only care about domestic issues and don’t give one fuck about people outside your country. You don’t even consider them human when you talk like this.

          Fucking disgusting. How about overthrowing your fucking genocidal governments?

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            No. There’s no 0% Hitler. If you think there is, you’re being ridiculous.

            Percentage comparisons are ludicrous, but if we must, I’d say like 10% Hitler vs 90% Hitler. I’d rather save some Jews rather than no Jews, with the option to save more Jews soon.

            Why is this hard?

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              Why is this hard?

              Why is this hard for you?

              but one side is genocide both at home and abroad

              You people are fucking pathetic btw. Palestine is going through daily bombings, dehumanization, torture and mass killings. All as part of your country’s push for genocide along with “Israel”. And they are still struggling and fighting and resisting.

              And you experience ONE BILLIONTH of the pain and you decide turning genocide into a bipartisan issue is the way to go!

              Selfish and monstrous.

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        Because the alternative to genocide was “this genocide keeps happening anyway with perhaps even more support from us, but we’ll also start a genocide on latinos and pick several other fights that will get millions of people hurt”. How is THAT the better option?

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          This shit would also be under the colour blue. Kamala Harris was mocking Trump for not deporting enough lmfao

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      ml and hexbear folks are now going to be crawling out of the woodwork to remind everyone on a somewhat left-leaning platform not to vote. Because they LOVE it when republicans win.

      I’m not even American, but I keep saying this: If the far right stands a good chance of winning, then leading up to the election, shut the fuck up and hold your nose and vote for the candidate that’s not pedohitler (okay, this time around it’s midterms not presidential, but the point stands). Spend the rest of the time doing whatever you can to actually change things, though.

      • BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.mlBanned
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        Joe Biden was pretty big on suppressing MeToo. And I dont know if you recall but the democrats are also on the Epstein list.

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        Are there still primaries in places? Because that’s where you push your 3rd party candidates. Primaries are where your choice is heard most.

        If you ignored the primaries and didn’t even try to change the choices on offer, you can’t complain when those choices are bad.

        (I mean the royal you, not you, @boonhet)

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        shut the fuck up and hold your nose and vote for the candidate that’s not pedohitler

        They’re all pedohitlers. You people only care about Trump because he is mean to the domestic population and their vassal states.

        Literally they are all on team genocide.