I am not in the AI==bad camp because I believe in nuance. I see a lot of people shit on Firefox for integrating LLM-related features. What the blog post points out and people fail to recognize is that if Mozilla stopped maintaining Firefox, almost all of its forks would die. People make similar arguments about Canonical and Ubuntu. Would these people pay Mozilla or Canonical for their work? The corporate investors do. I’m not saying I agree with it all, but that’s how it works.
if Mozilla stopped maintaining Firefox, almost all of its forks would die.
That’s an assumption. You’re severely underestimating the amount of work open source maintainers put into those things.
Would these people pay […] Canonical for their work?
Plenty of nice distribs exist without being maintained by a corporation. Good on them, for getting to have a bunch of money of the opensource, but it’s not a necessary model for the opensource projects to survive.
You’re severely underestimating the amount of work open source maintainers put into those things.
Which Firefox fork is a hard fork? Which Firefox fork has a hard fork of the Gecko engine?
As far as I know, all firefox forks are dependent on the Gecko engine, and basically have Firefox as upstream.
I would love for your to prove me wrong, but I don’t believe any of these projects, though with many highly dedicated contributors, would be able to maintain active development of a web browser engine that can keep up with new modern web standards.
There is a reason the Ladybird project is taking so long to materialize and has many sponsors giving significant amounts of money.
Internet shit is hard. Firefox and their forks only work because Mozilla is fucking huge and has money to develop Firefox as part of the three big industry standard web browsers. Even though Mozilla does a lot of stupid decisions and spends the majority of their money on dumb shit, and they put dumb shit into the default Firefox that they ship, it is still excellent in many ways and the very best thing we have as a FOSS web browser. I encourage everyone to use Firefox with hardening or one its forks.
I agree with the article, and people saying “Yeah let’s boycott Firefox, use [insert Firefox fork here]” every time there is a Lemmy post on a stupid decision by Mozilla are effectively not boycotting Firefox at all, or if they recommend a Chromium fork they are supporting Chrome/Google, even if they don’t think they are. These forks are in essence just preconfigured and hardened Firefox/Chromium profiles with a few bells and whistles here and there.
Mozilla? Maybe, but they need to step it up to be worth paying. They were captured by Google supporting them for too long and need to break from the “Yes, Daddy!” dipshittery. Dumping slopboth trash into everything while my SSD replacement is 6x what it was last time I checked just makes me want to slap you. Especiallyh if it’s bloody pointless, and for those who want that crap it can run via a bookmarked site or as an extenion not part of the core fucking browser.
Canonical? Fuck no! Not only is Ubuntu a complete joke, and was nearly twenty yhears ago when I tried and tossed it to go back to Slackware, but the only project they ever put out worth anything they abandoned and let it fall toa poorly supported community project making the phone OS.
I am not in the
AI==badcamp because I believe in nuance. I see a lot of people shit on Firefox for integrating LLM-related features. What the blog post points out and people fail to recognize is that if Mozilla stopped maintaining Firefox, almost all of its forks would die. People make similar arguments about Canonical and Ubuntu. Would these people pay Mozilla or Canonical for their work? The corporate investors do. I’m not saying I agree with it all, but that’s how it works.That’s an assumption. You’re severely underestimating the amount of work open source maintainers put into those things.
Plenty of nice distribs exist without being maintained by a corporation. Good on them, for getting to have a bunch of money of the opensource, but it’s not a necessary model for the opensource projects to survive.
Which Firefox fork is a hard fork? Which Firefox fork has a hard fork of the Gecko engine?
As far as I know, all firefox forks are dependent on the Gecko engine, and basically have Firefox as upstream.
I would love for your to prove me wrong, but I don’t believe any of these projects, though with many highly dedicated contributors, would be able to maintain active development of a web browser engine that can keep up with new modern web standards.
There is a reason the Ladybird project is taking so long to materialize and has many sponsors giving significant amounts of money.
Internet shit is hard. Firefox and their forks only work because Mozilla is fucking huge and has money to develop Firefox as part of the three big industry standard web browsers. Even though Mozilla does a lot of stupid decisions and spends the majority of their money on dumb shit, and they put dumb shit into the default Firefox that they ship, it is still excellent in many ways and the very best thing we have as a FOSS web browser. I encourage everyone to use Firefox with hardening or one its forks.
I agree with the article, and people saying “Yeah let’s boycott Firefox, use [insert Firefox fork here]” every time there is a Lemmy post on a stupid decision by Mozilla are effectively not boycotting Firefox at all, or if they recommend a Chromium fork they are supporting Chrome/Google, even if they don’t think they are. These forks are in essence just preconfigured and hardened Firefox/Chromium profiles with a few bells and whistles here and there.
I think we know the answer to this.
Mozilla? Maybe, but they need to step it up to be worth paying. They were captured by Google supporting them for too long and need to break from the “Yes, Daddy!” dipshittery. Dumping slopboth trash into everything while my SSD replacement is 6x what it was last time I checked just makes me want to slap you. Especiallyh if it’s bloody pointless, and for those who want that crap it can run via a bookmarked site or as an extenion not part of the core fucking browser.
Canonical? Fuck no! Not only is Ubuntu a complete joke, and was nearly twenty yhears ago when I tried and tossed it to go back to Slackware, but the only project they ever put out worth anything they abandoned and let it fall toa poorly supported community project making the phone OS.