If you actually give a shit, delete your sony account and move to pc. I said as much when this boycott was announced, their systems wouldn’t even notice it. If you want to affect their bottom line you have to leave and not come back. Concessions are only gained if you’re willing to walk out entirely. And you have more rights around ownership digitally on pc anyway. I’ve never bought a digital title for a console and that’s the way it will stay. There is 0 reason to be on a closed ecosystem as a gamer. Get your friends to join, set up local learning/gaming sessions, make new friends, own your hardware again, get linux, get drm free games, support indie devs and fuck AAA titles that serve you unfinished slop.
If you actually give a shit, delete your sony account and move to pc.
There’s a reason why Sony announced their digital-only platform around this time. People who bought a PS5 want to play games while not spending the money you’d need for a PC. Now with RAM, graphics cards and storage prices going to the clouds, even less people are able to build/buy a PC. Even if the PS6 costs 799€ (or something around that price range), it will be way cheaper than buying/building a PC, especially since the crisis won’t stop in the near future.
I mean, rumors are that it’ll be $1000-1200 which is wild. But with a company making every choice currently to be as greedy as possible in the gaming space, maybe not that wild lol.
However, you can build a similar unit still for around the same price. It’s not much cheaper (having built several hundred units working in the pc industry myself.) And this explosion in pricing has only brought those numbers closer together. Consoles used to be sold at a loss. That has become less and less true, especally as they exclude components such as 4k blu ray lasers and include only slightly modified silicon based off the same consumer grade pc components, that price delta keeps closing.
You can find countless videos on youtube still being made today of budget pc builds that are targeted to be on par or better than consoles for around the same price. And if you factor in your monthly sub to play online with friends for PS plus and instead funnel that into a better system…well, the math pulls even more in favor of the open ecosystem 🤷♂️
I can’t spend the crazy amount of money it would take to build a new tower right now. I have a 5070 laptop, that’ll have to do I guess. I’ll delete Sony accounts.
As much as I agree with you about owning your games and moving to Linux PC, I have to disgree when you say there is 0 reason to be on a closed ecosystem as a gamer.
I’ll probably never buy a Playstation again as I’m in the process of moving my gaming to Linux (Steam Deck for now, gaming rig when the prices go down), but Sony games used to be/are great and everything works perfectly out of the box.
Pc gaming/Linux is becoming better, but it’s not there yet for ease of use.
If everything was already perfect I don’t think we’d be in this situation lol. When trying to affect change, sacrifices have to be made. When workers strike I don’t think they’re expecting a better situation than the status quo lol. It takes courage to stand on principle.
In this case, sacrificing a bit of time to learn and set things up and/or some games that are full of microtransactions and anticheat, like CoD or Valorant, is a pretty easy choice imo compared to an actual strike lol. With Proton and new distros like Bazzite you can even have a console-like experience. Heck, with things like Kazeta you can even have a physical media like experience. Just costs a little time.
I understand, I just think those console advantages aren’t really that far off anymore. I understand the plug and play mentality, but it still requires account creation, sign in, and to play online multiplayer, an additional subscription.
Given that pricing has been on par for a while now with equivalent hardware, like I mentioned, time learning and setting up (honestly, what would take maybe a youtube video or two) and you would have a console-like experience replicated.
So, to me, when I see this it just seems like laziness and apathy rather than a conscious choice. Dead-eyed consumerism basically lol. I’m not even making the arguments of better graphics or using your pc for more than just gaming yet.
The only thing really standing in the way still that I imagine many still feel is anticheat. On two points though I would say that is acceptable. 1st, why would you want any software with kernel level access? Lol. Legitimately, I don’t think it’s worth it, but that is my opinion. The 2nd is that the games with anticheat are, unfortunately, the ones most often making the gaming ecosystem worse overall through their invasive, predatory, and addictive designs. Again, my opinion, and I played way too much league back in the day haha.
So I do understand and that’s why I think it’s on us who understand and who are willing to learn to share that knowledge ans offer it to our friends and communities, to be the jumping off point that helps movements begin.
Another project of my own that I’m working on is building a homelab via NixOS with flakes. Not something I ever thought I would do, but I’m learning the code and learning about alternatives and taking input from friends to see what they’d be interested in using. And then, once my flake is ready, then it can simply be copied and my work and understanding can be a jumping off point for more of my friends in the area to self host and own a lot of differrent services to not be reliant on the giant corporations.
I see this in the same vein. Those of us willing to take the jump (although, I can’t really call it a jump or sacrifice as I see more benefits on this side haha) should also be willing to build and help others join, take control, and spend more time enjoying our hobby instead of worrying about losing access or paying another subscription to play with friends.
If you actually give a shit, delete your sony account and move to pc. I said as much when this boycott was announced, their systems wouldn’t even notice it. If you want to affect their bottom line you have to leave and not come back. Concessions are only gained if you’re willing to walk out entirely. And you have more rights around ownership digitally on pc anyway. I’ve never bought a digital title for a console and that’s the way it will stay. There is 0 reason to be on a closed ecosystem as a gamer. Get your friends to join, set up local learning/gaming sessions, make new friends, own your hardware again, get linux, get drm free games, support indie devs and fuck AAA titles that serve you unfinished slop.
Imo, I think it is still difficult for many people to build a PC even if you give them all the parts that they need
Username checks out lol
That’s why I’ve built PCs for all my friends. Just rebuilt one this past weekend. They pay me in board games, food, and friendship.
There’s a reason why Sony announced their digital-only platform around this time. People who bought a PS5 want to play games while not spending the money you’d need for a PC. Now with RAM, graphics cards and storage prices going to the clouds, even less people are able to build/buy a PC. Even if the PS6 costs 799€ (or something around that price range), it will be way cheaper than buying/building a PC, especially since the crisis won’t stop in the near future.
I mean, rumors are that it’ll be $1000-1200 which is wild. But with a company making every choice currently to be as greedy as possible in the gaming space, maybe not that wild lol.
However, you can build a similar unit still for around the same price. It’s not much cheaper (having built several hundred units working in the pc industry myself.) And this explosion in pricing has only brought those numbers closer together. Consoles used to be sold at a loss. That has become less and less true, especally as they exclude components such as 4k blu ray lasers and include only slightly modified silicon based off the same consumer grade pc components, that price delta keeps closing.
You can find countless videos on youtube still being made today of budget pc builds that are targeted to be on par or better than consoles for around the same price. And if you factor in your monthly sub to play online with friends for PS plus and instead funnel that into a better system…well, the math pulls even more in favor of the open ecosystem 🤷♂️
I can’t spend the crazy amount of money it would take to build a new tower right now. I have a 5070 laptop, that’ll have to do I guess. I’ll delete Sony accounts.
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Your laptop might be better than my desktop in some regards haha
As much as I agree with you about owning your games and moving to Linux PC, I have to disgree when you say there is 0 reason to be on a closed ecosystem as a gamer.
I’ll probably never buy a Playstation again as I’m in the process of moving my gaming to Linux (Steam Deck for now, gaming rig when the prices go down), but Sony games used to be/are great and everything works perfectly out of the box.
Pc gaming/Linux is becoming better, but it’s not there yet for ease of use.
If everything was already perfect I don’t think we’d be in this situation lol. When trying to affect change, sacrifices have to be made. When workers strike I don’t think they’re expecting a better situation than the status quo lol. It takes courage to stand on principle.
In this case, sacrificing a bit of time to learn and set things up and/or some games that are full of microtransactions and anticheat, like CoD or Valorant, is a pretty easy choice imo compared to an actual strike lol. With Proton and new distros like Bazzite you can even have a console-like experience. Heck, with things like Kazeta you can even have a physical media like experience. Just costs a little time.
I’m ready to make the sacrifice, but a lot of people aren’t because consoles still have advantages.
That’s why I have to react when people are saying that consoles have nothing over PC. It’s true for us, but not for everyone.
I understand, I just think those console advantages aren’t really that far off anymore. I understand the plug and play mentality, but it still requires account creation, sign in, and to play online multiplayer, an additional subscription.
Given that pricing has been on par for a while now with equivalent hardware, like I mentioned, time learning and setting up (honestly, what would take maybe a youtube video or two) and you would have a console-like experience replicated.
So, to me, when I see this it just seems like laziness and apathy rather than a conscious choice. Dead-eyed consumerism basically lol. I’m not even making the arguments of better graphics or using your pc for more than just gaming yet.
The only thing really standing in the way still that I imagine many still feel is anticheat. On two points though I would say that is acceptable. 1st, why would you want any software with kernel level access? Lol. Legitimately, I don’t think it’s worth it, but that is my opinion. The 2nd is that the games with anticheat are, unfortunately, the ones most often making the gaming ecosystem worse overall through their invasive, predatory, and addictive designs. Again, my opinion, and I played way too much league back in the day haha.
So I do understand and that’s why I think it’s on us who understand and who are willing to learn to share that knowledge ans offer it to our friends and communities, to be the jumping off point that helps movements begin.
Another project of my own that I’m working on is building a homelab via NixOS with flakes. Not something I ever thought I would do, but I’m learning the code and learning about alternatives and taking input from friends to see what they’d be interested in using. And then, once my flake is ready, then it can simply be copied and my work and understanding can be a jumping off point for more of my friends in the area to self host and own a lot of differrent services to not be reliant on the giant corporations.
I see this in the same vein. Those of us willing to take the jump (although, I can’t really call it a jump or sacrifice as I see more benefits on this side haha) should also be willing to build and help others join, take control, and spend more time enjoying our hobby instead of worrying about losing access or paying another subscription to play with friends.