I2P support anonymous torrents

TOR is good for direct downloads (DDL)

Don’t know if others exist…

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      3 years ago

      I that case, why not help spread a little freedom in the rest of the world by hosting an I2P node?

      We should make torrenting over I2P the default.

      Any dissidents in places like China who are caught using it could then plausibly claim they were just downloading a movie.

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        3 years ago

        I2P

        isnt hosting a node a very easy way to get the police knocking on your door? i dont want csam flowing through my network

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          2 years ago

          If this was the first time the world heard of onion routing, then yes.

          Now they can realize that you’re probably just one step in the chain. And with i2p there’s no way to know if they even reached the end of the chain (provided you host i2p for long enough).

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          3 years ago

          All traffic over I2P is encrypted unless you use an outproxy (which isn’t as common as a Tor exit node is), so no. Most, if not all I2P torrenting traffic never touches an outproxy, just like Tor hidden services (.onion sites and whatnot) never touch an exit node.

          Hosting a Tor relay is fine even, as you are still just passing encrypted data around. It’s running an exit node that can get you into some sketchy waters with your ISP/law enforcement.

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    3 years ago

    I don’t like DDL over Tor as it is not really designed for heavy bandwidth. I2P could be the future once more users start using it, right now BiglyBT can crossover on the clearnet and I2P.

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      IIRC TOR is OK with a stream from one source (DDLs fit the bill), but isn’t made for handling many streams at once. I2P is good for that --> torrenting over I2P doesn’t stress the network as much.

      I2P needs more nodes though. It’s much slower than TOR

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      3 years ago

      Yggdrasil

      Doesn’t seem to be anonymous (emphasis mine)

      Is Yggdrasil anonymous?

      No, it is not a goal of the Yggdrasil project to provide anonymity. Direct peers over the Internet will be able to see your IP address and may be able to use this information to determine your location or identity. Multicast-discovered peerings on the same network will typically expose your device MAC address. Other nodes on the network may be able to discern some information about which nodes you are peered with.

      I hope you aren’t relying on it for anonymity.

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    3 years ago

    For torrents, a VPN might be the best bet as others have pointed out. But for direct download, just DoH should be enough.

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        Just as anonymous as a vpn (usenet instead of a vpn). Plus it’s the host taking the risk, not the customers; cops/copyright holders are interested in the distribution not the consumption. With torrents, you are the host and a consumer; usenet your just a consumer.

        I pay 8$/mo for the usenet provider and indexer together and get a constant 45-50mbps download speed out of it (mostly limited by disk speed really). I’ve also found far more content available via usenet and one indexer vs the 18+ torrent indexers I used to use.

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      3 years ago

      TOR now has quite some big nodes. If you’re lucky and your path goes through them, you can hit speeds of around 1MB/s - I know I have.

      Plus, with a small linux box that downloads the stuff for you overnight, it’s not really an issue. You can use JDownloader with TOR as a proxy. Add links to it to download, go to bed and wake up with everything downloaded 🫰

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          1MB/s is not enough? Most films are <1GB. That’s <1000s / ~17minutes to download a film. Well enough to watch a few TED talks, read some ArsTechnica articles, or read a single Salon article. Hell, it’s good enough to talk a short walk outside, fill up the dishwasher, tidy up the room a little, or lift a few weights.

          Different priorities, I guess.

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            3 years ago

            Most films are <1GB.

            Do you watch pixel slideshows?

            Looking at my library… I have 6662 movies.

            77 movies are above 50GB…
            236 are above 25GB
            631 are above 10GB
            1072 are above 5GB
            3021 are above 2GB
            5896 are above 1.5GB
            6675 above 1GB (more files than I have unique movies in plex due to doubles/editions/nonimported)
            11 files less than 1GB…

            Are you only downloading 720p? How the hell are you ending up finding movies that are less than 1GB and are still quality enough to actually watch?

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              How the hell are you ending up finding movies that are less than 1GB and are still quality enough to actually watch?

              Search for something, sort by number of seeders, download the top file around the size you want.

              Also remembering uploaded names helps (yify comes to mind)

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                I understand that, my point was that at 1080p and less than 1GB of storage… that bitrate must be trash and virtually unwatchable.

                Edit: To my point… A lot of my anime episodes are like 300-900MB… but those are ~25 minutes… To find a 90+ minute movie at 1GB… that’s an estimated 2/3 of the quality of an anime image which is usually easier to compress. I just can’t see a normal movie being 1GB and not looking like480p that was poorly upscaled to 1080p… like a camrip.

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              I agree if it’s the max speed of you internet line, sure. But I grew up with 56k and didn’t have >1Mb/s (notice Mb, not MB) until I left for university, so waiting for content is totally normal. Especially if that content can wait and if that speed is due to security. If I were at work and had to wait 20 minutes to download a docker image, that would indeed be unacceptable.

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            Well, we like quality on our server, everything 4k (if it exists) we recently decided to not take remux since they are often >100GB. But 20GB to 40GB is the norm for our movie files. You gotta use that 10Gb/s up line at our server for something, lol. (I know downscaling 4k down if on bad mobile network is very heavy computing, but in those cases we use the save offline feature of plex)