• TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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    19 hours ago

    Like, if you didn’t know the towers were sorta built like a bundle of wires on end and that deforming even the tip of the bundle with heat could cause the roof to fall in and split the whole thing open

    Yeah… The wtc was basically supported by a center frame tube support structure tied together with a couple hundred perimeter support beams by giant hat truss. If the hat truss is damaged the whole thing collapses under its own weight.

    how a building that was slapped by the (burning) tallest building in the world couldn’t have possibly collapsed after 7 hours of uncontrolled fire.

    But but, no sky scraper had ever been brought down by fire before… They always forget the part where a giant chunk of building fell on it doing a ton of structural damage before a multi floor uncontrolled fire burnt for 7 hours straight. Plus, there have been several buildings of similar size that have collapsed due to fire since 2001.

    People who think 9/11 was a controlled demolition simply do not not know enough about engineering to have an educated opinion. There are only a few demolition companies in the world large enough to take on a project that size, and it would have taken months of hundreds if not thousands of civilian workers and engineers working onsite around the clock to execute.

    • OwOarchist@pawb.social
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      15 hours ago

      There are only a few demolition companies in the world large enough to take on a project that size, and it would have taken months of hundreds if not thousands of civilian workers and engineers working onsite around the clock to execute.

      Eh… I’m no 9/11 conspiracy theorist* but there’s one little hole in that logic: There are only a few demolition companies in the world that could do it safely, and it would have taken hundreds of workers and engineers to do it safely. But if you don’t care about killing a few thousand people in the process and causing major damage to other nearby buildings, maybe then the job gets a lot easier.

      But yeah, let me reiterate, it was not a controlled demolition, and the buildings collapsed due to steel supports being weakened by fire and airplane impact.

      *The one 9/11 conspiracy I am kind of on board with is that various US intelligence agencies were aware of the impending attack and failed to do anything about it. Either because they were grossly incompetent … or in the more sinister version, they were deliberately ordered to ignore it, allowing the attack to happen, because the people in charge (Bush administration) wanted it to happen: that way they could have excuses to justify new wars in the Middle East, the Patriot Act, forming the Department of Homeland Security (including ICE), etc.

      *Oh, and a further 9/11 conspiracy I could get on board with: Flight 93 (the hijacked plane that didn’t hit anything) was supposedly taken down because the passengers on board had heard of the other attacks and decided to fight back, and the plane lost control in the struggle and crashed. But I suspect that might be a cover story. I suspect that Flight 93 was actually shot down by a fighter jet or a surface-to-air missile, and the story of heroic passengers fighting back was invented in order to absolve the US government of the guilt of shooting down a civilian plane full of innocent passengers. With that cover story, the passengers are self-sacrificing heroes, rather than victims of collateral damage who’d been sacrificed by their own government.

    • Shindo66@lemmy.world
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      18 hours ago

      Free fall speed? Into its own footprint? There have been hundreds of structual engineers who have come forward calling it a controlled demolition.

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      19 hours ago

      I don’t know. If you’re not worried about casualties or collateral damage then it gets a lot easier.