• Lugh@futurology.todayEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I’m one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - https://futurology.today/ ) It’s been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.

    This is despite the fact we’ve permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.

    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
      2·
      1 year ago

      People who would leave a site like Reddit because of a principled stance often mistakenly believe that the rest of society cares as deeply as they. Spoiler: society mostly doesn’t care; at least, not enough to go out of their way to change anything.

      • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        There are a lot of people that are actually too dumb to change platforms and assume apps like Reddit are the actual internet.

        • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
          2·
          1 year ago

          My father had a doctorate of engineering. He was a brilliant man. When I saw him search for Google and then follow the search link to google.com, to then search on their home page, I started to tell him he should search from the address / search field in his browser. He was instantly becoming confused and so I said, “nevermind,” because his way got him satisfactory results so why bother. Some people aren’t dumb at all. They just don’t care about the same things you or I mighty enough to learn them (beyond basics).

    • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
      2·
      1 year ago

      I’m technically from elsewhere in the fediverse, but I’m also a Reddit migrant (back in June). Thank you for setting the community up, I’ve missed it from Reddit days

    • andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      1 year ago

      IIRC stickies are also excluded from feed once they get this attribute.

      But yeah, we don’t even understand what a barrier switching to fediverse sites is for regular joes, jemmas and jermas. Like, for many people the internet is suggested apps’ feed and, rarely, their browser’s default start page. They don’t choose anything, and why would they? And here we are, challenging them to do something on intent while they are pretty happy with what they have now.

      • Lugh@futurology.todayEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        and why would they? … they are pretty happy with what they have now.

        Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who’ve setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.

        My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn’t too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.

        But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it’s expressing.

      • pewnit@lemmings.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        I literally only switched because of Boost. Also, since Boost for Reddit still works for me, I continue to use that as well

    • redcalcium@lemmy.institute
      0·
      1 year ago

      Even the head mod of piracy subreddit was ousted from the subreddit for attempting to migrate the sub to a lemmy instance, and the redditors that remain there actually cheered! It’s wild, you would expect pirates, who always at risk of having their subreddit shut down, would understand the need to migrate.

  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    1·
    1 year ago

    All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving

    I saw one that said they would stay until Reddit charges a fee to use the site…like why are they staying??? JUST FUCKING LEAVE

    One even said “there are no viable alternatives” when talking about Reddit, like excuse me what the fuck?

    • satnififu@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 year ago

      I’ll probably get hate, but the content just isn’t there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I’d follow on Reddit just weren’t on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it’s just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn’t much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan

      PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      With the sheer number of @[email protected] liberals that get mad at the existence of people more left than them in federated spaces but go out of their way to “dae both sides” justify the presence of nazis, I’d say the chances are higher than that.

    • stembolts@programming.dev
      0·
      1 year ago

      Well, its a federation. So the instances that wish to be associated with such, will be. And the ones that don’t, won’t be. Your language is limited by your concept of a website. Reconsider the concept if you wish and update your language accordingly. It will make your comments more clear.

  • boiledfrog [he/him, undecided]@hexbear.net
    1·
    1 year ago

    I might be biased but I find that reddit has become insufferably right wing in it’s userbase, especially since the last fiasco.

    I just lookevery once in a while and it is full of the most reactionary, nationalist shite

  • Zicoxy3@lemmy.ml
    0·
    1 year ago

    Unfortunately, reddit has been too long and entrenched in society to “remove” it from our browsers. It is very different from Twitter or another social network. Lemmy is a great project. I hope it works and establishes itself as a real alternative, but it still has a long way to go. Unfortunately, the Reddit/Lemmy format is resource intensive, and that’s the problem with a service like this.

    It’s my simple opinion. I support any fediverso project, but reddit, today I think it is irreplaceable.

    • shaked_coffee@feddit.it
      1·
      1 year ago

      That’s very true!

      Thanks to the whole blackout thing and the many amazing apps that came to Lemmy (like Sync that I’m using rn and loving), Lemmy is now good enough to replace Reddit for the new content (at least in my opinion)

      But Reddit is not (or at least not only) an “what’s happening now” social network like Twitter and there is a huge amount of old content on it that can still really useful. So I guess that, in the best scenario, we’ll have Reddit and Lemmy cohexist and complement each other :)