

I honestly wasn’t trying to attack you. I think we should be careful when we talk about LLMs, because it’s important for people to know that it’s just a bunch of math in a computer program. A lot of people have a tendency to anthropomorphize it.


I honestly wasn’t trying to attack you. I think we should be careful when we talk about LLMs, because it’s important for people to know that it’s just a bunch of math in a computer program. A lot of people have a tendency to anthropomorphize it.


You said “that’s not how they work”. But that is how they work. Same prompt = same output. Throw some random data in there to jumble things around and you get a little variance. That’s the seed, and we only need to do that because LLMs are inherently deterministic.
Same reason Minecraft has a random seed for world generation, and block cipher algorithms use an initialization vector and/or feedback loop. We don’t want the same thing every time.
I did say that you’re right, because the tooling we use around the LLM itself does exactly what you’re talking about. So, in practice, you’re right.


People confuse LLMs for being non-deterministic all the time. The comment implied that. I want people to understand that LLMs are deterministic, because I don’t want people confusing them with actual intelligence or some sort of “black magic”. But sure man, whatever excuse you need to be an asshole to a stranger.


Please read the last sentence of my comment. I am not saying that the interpretation is wrong, I’m saying the statement that that’s not how LLMs work is wrong. That is how LLMs work. They are deterministic. The only reason they don’t do that in practice is because we purposefully seed them with random data to make them not do that.


Fair enough. Still, why would you misrepresent my view so radically unless you were being uncharitable on purpose?


It’s called pedantry, and I have never failed to own it. At this point, I feel like you’re trying to be overly abrasive.
Was it not your interpretation that the messages seem to not be from LLMs, because they’re identical? Because that’s literally what you said.


How did you possibly get that from what I said? Are you purposefully being as uncharitable as possible?
No, I clearly was not talking about this situation. I was clarifying how your interpretation was correct, but you were factually incorrect.


LLMs won’t spit out the same word-for-word response for the same prompt
You can give an LLM the same seed and it will spit out the same word-for-word response. That’s how they work. It’s just a bunch of math.


You are right, but you are also wrong. If they’re given the same seed, they certainly will. They are 100% deterministic. But in reality, the seed is randomly generated, so yeah, it won’t be exactly the same every time.



Of course we are. Here’s my shift.
Double dadcocks.
Ok, so it also fails sometimes when your name is unfortunate. But other than those times that it fails, it never fails.
First initial, last name, never fails. Except when you change your name. Then it fails.


I haven’t owned every Nintendo console, just Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Super Nintendo, Game Boy Advance, N64, Wii, New Nintendo 3DS, and Switch. But yeah, all the shit they’ve done recently means I’ll never buy a Switch 2, or whatever comes after it.
As much as I would like 1981 to only be two decades ago, I’m afraid it was four and a half decades ago.
A decade? Email has been around longer than the web. Roughly forty years.
If you have your own domain, you won’t ever have to migrate addresses, just possibly providers.
This really saddens me. Email is such a fundamentally good and open protocol. The only reason people don’t like it is because of big tech’s shenanigans.
I run an email service called Port87. I invite you to try it and see if it can convince you that email is actually a great technology, when detached from big tech slop. It’s got some really killer features that make it great for organization and preventing spam. You can also tell it that on certain addresses, it should completely ignore the strict auth requirements it usually has, so it will accept email from your own services without you having to set up all the extra bullshit that’s meant for stuff that matters more.
No it’s not. They could have said “avoiding windows”.
Hmm. I might be interested in switching to Vivaldi.