Herding Llamas

Buuuttt… You more or less did say that. This is what you said - “Regular, unpackaged, German bread doesn’t contain added sugar though”

And Haha no worries my man, I simply had the time. The thing is… regular supermarket bread in your area does have added sugar. That is the point. It is not region dependant. It does in northern Germany, it does in southern Germany, east and west. It does in your bio-markt, it does in Aldi, it does at netto, it does at rewe. The common default is added sugar in one variety or another. It is rare, so rare it is much harder to find an exception to that rule. Grocery stores almost all have mass produced bread - mass produced bread has added sugar for a lot of good reasons.

But serious question @taxiiiii. Do I need to go on? “Regular, unpackaged, German bread doesn’t contain added sugar though” - so you say - or does it? Which is exactly the point I was making about the ambulance. Ambulances never get blocked in Germany, just as german bread does not have added sugar. Both are of course wrong.

Really. I can give you 1,000 other examples of where it has added sugar. I can also give you examples of german bread that have double or tripple higher added sugar then other countries typical bread.

You are correct that many counties like Japan, or Sweden, or the US add sugar to their bread, but you would also be wrong to assume that it doesn’t happen in your country. Cause it happens in every country. Want to know how I know? I’ve professionally baked bread in Germany and the US.

Bread from rewe. 2.8g sugar. Coming from caramelized sugar and a inverted sugar syurp. https://shop.rewe.de/p/gab-weltmeisterbrot-mehrkorn-750g/2306462

Farmers crust 2,6g sugar http://sortiment.heberer.de/de/home/i/50001178 Roggenbrot 2.6g sugar http://sortiment.heberer.de/de/home/i/50001154

Do I need to go on?

I’m not trying to cherry pick out examples. Literally the first thing I find that is bread

Backwerk kaiserbrötchen 2.6g sugar, their pretzel 3.4g sugar https://www.back-werk.de/de/sortiment/kaiserbrotchen-622?lang=de

It doesn’t get more typical for me than german pumpernickel, with a whopping 6.7g sugar coming from sugar beets and malted barley syurp https://www.knuspr.de/6236-alnatura-bio-pumpernickel?gad_source=1

Which one did I look at? No idea. That was 4 years ago at someone’s house. But here are some examples. Merzenich are the most common bakeries around me.

Their bauernhandbrötchen have 2,6g sugar per 100g. Their main sugar that they are adding is malted barely. But they also add beet sugar and grape sugar. Malted barley is sugar syurp. https://baeckerei-merzenich.de/ WEIZENMEHL 43 %, Wasser, ROGGEN MEHL 7 %, ROGGENMALZFLOCKEN 4 %, GERSTENMALZEXTRAKT, Zucker, Traubenzucker, Malzmehl (GERSTE, WEIZEN), WEIZENGRIESS, Rapsöl, Salz, BUTTERMILCHPULVER, Hefe

Here is another kamps village bread 1.6g sugar https://kamps.de/produkte/brot-kamps-dorfbrot

Or another at 2.6g sugar https://kamps.de/produkte/brot-kamps-eck

Here is a sliced bread variety at 1.5 G that I see at rewe https://www.harry-brot.de/produkte/detail/show/sammy-s-super-sandwich-das-original

This is not the bread I was eating, it is the bread they had at home. Nearly all commercial bread has sugar added to it. Natural sugar is also created with breaking down carbohydrates. A popular sugar added to german bread is malted barley syrup . Nearly all german bread bought at german bakeries have a sugar content between .4g and 1.5g per 100g. Go to a grocery store and flip over a bread package. Go to one of the bakery chains and look at their nutrition facts. Here are some examples. The first one I looked up on Merzenich has 2.7g sugar per 100.

https://baeckerei-merzenich.de/sortiment/

https://www.edna.de/epages/Edna.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=%2FShops%2FEdna%2FProducts%2F2760

https://www.edna.de/epages/Edna.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=%2FShops%2FEdna%2FProducts%2F2730

Germany is better than most places, but it happens here too. It could be one of those things you only notice when you’re looking for it.

I’ve never seen someone open carry a gun in the US but when you listen to people it sounds like everyone does.

I was a my friends WG (group apartment) and her roommate just got back from the US. She was shocked that the Americans even put sugar in their bread. Something something it’s why they are all fat and unhealthy. I was curious, so got all of the german bread there… And you know what? It all had a higher sugar content than the American bread example.

I saw this exact same thing yesterday in Cologne Germany but not with one, but two ambulances.

Is that reddit on his screen?

Of course as people pointed out, this is far from a uniquely American thing. Also, I’m sure by American they mean the USA, but “Americans” are inclusive of north, central and south America. Here in Europe, we also expect people to speak English as it is the universal language.

As a side note, it is also often commented that Americans (USA Americans) can only speak English. This is a narrow view that primarily broadly looks at white Americans and ignores the fact that the US is a huge melting pot of cultures and for many US citizens English is their second or third language.

It goes without being said, the contents of the picture should never have a reason to be written. Don’t be a dick to people trying to help you.

The typical dosage is 2 for all of them (excluding the rand german pill - the one that you have no idea what it is). It’s also ibuprofen, but you would never know it. Does that help at all with you being skeptical?

All of that is the same here in Germany. Check out the stats on home ownership here… But oh man are the kids flipping to the AfD (far right nazi party) quick and in huge numbers. It’s scary to see.

Advil is the main brand name for this. I always buy a bottle and other pills when I’m in the US. It is way more than I need but what I like is all the US pills look different. I always have a little mixed bottle of Advil, Pepto Bismol (fixes everything stomach related), anti-histamine pills… with me for when I need them. You can mix them all together and still tell the difference between them. That’s what I don’t like about the European blister packs of unidentifable white pills. That and I hate blister packs. It is also cheaper to buy a bottle. But to be clear, I get like a bottle of 50 or 100. Advil is also enteric coated so it is better for your stomach and tastes better (it’s slightly sweet).

Really? I didn’t know that?! Super cool and thx for commenting! Do you have any more info on this (something I can read somewhere)?

Also… I don’t know if I ever will have an opportunity like this again… I would love a feature like I had in RIF (Reddit is Fun), and that is to be able to collapse all child comments in the comment section! It removes a lot of clutter and you can then expand the child comments when you want more on that topic. I use Jebora for lemmy for reference.

Very true. Lemme is reddit… Or how reddit was when it was good. They liked reddit then for the same reason I did and why I don’t use it and why we are here.

It’s more about people most people don’t know who are here unless you tell them rather than you’re data being secure. A different feeling then when posting with your real name and with all of you irl friends following you

2)True true.

1. hey - PlexSheep - wrong phraseing maybe from me. I don’t want to play semantics with how Anonymous is it is… But yeah, it is not 💯 anonymous so that is clearly too strong.

On here I have no friends, no connections, and my irl name is not attached to my account. So closer to anonymous than for example Facebook. It’s harder for just any user to track down things about specific users.

2. lemmy is nich but not advanced nor hard to use. I like it because it’s super simple. The point has nothing to do with Germans being able to use lemmy, but rather they did not start off using other programs or apps (z.B. MySpace Facebook) in the 90s and early 2000s as soon as other people like Americans. When these apps started they were great and had no negative feelings to them. When Germans came around to start using them in larger numbers, they already had negative issues. So they never started with these apps like others did in other countries. This is likely very different for you, as you are much younger. All of this stuff existed already when you were coming into adulthood.

3. sounds like you have a great friends group. I also have many experiences with German people who speak English very well… As well as many who can’t. I have both English and German only speaking friends. I spoke nearly zero german when I came here. It’s hard. Cashier at rewe, anyone working at Bauhaus, nearly anyone in the small town I was first in. Some cities aren’t much better. Some of my employees speak zero functional English and they are young. There is nothing wrong with that, but there is a big difference in Germany and somewhere like Holland.

To try and answer the question of why so many of them. Please note this is broad generalizations:

1. german people have large privacy and date security fears. This has kept them off of many other platforms. Most people in my friends circle never had a MySpace / Facebook… Being in an anonymous space like here is nice.

2. they also are and have been technologically behind in many ways. Bringing them slower to other platforms that they would have started off on, making it so they didn’t use any. Ignorance and fear of technology and privacy fear combined with being technologically slower meant they were going on other platforms in a time when the platforms were getting known as “bad, mentally harmful, data mining & selling machines”.

3. English language skills are lower in Germany (outside of Berlin). Many tourists don’t see this as they go to touristy things (hotels, attractions) where they speak English. It is easy in platforms like this or reddit to be in a German speaking bubble. People who speak lots of English like their neighbors the Dutch, would more likely just post in English as everyone can then understand it.

Source: my opinions - but I do live in Germany.

I’ve had it a number of times both in the states and in SE Asia. It’s different but it is really good. Like yeah it is a different coffee and if you judge it to the same criteria as a coffee style that it isn’t, of course it will fail. If a “good coffee” needs to be aggressively acidic with strong notes of papaya, pineapple, Maracuja…this is not that. It is very smooth and subtle and that is what makes it nice and different.