Middle aged, as in millennials?

This seems like some boomer shit

I’ve been going through a similar journey, and I’ll tell you want I did:

I ended up just getting a low-end 2 bay Synology NAS, because it is cheap, and easy to set up shares and backups, and 12tb mirrored is all I needed. I was too intimidated by the prospect of configuring trueNAS correctly, and Synology walked back their requirement of using their own branded drives.

If you want open source NAS software, then TrueNAS and OpenMediaVault are the main options. Truenas has the better pedigree afaict, but it has pretty significant requirements that mean you’ll need expensive hardware. In the end, I decided it was way more than what I needed, I wanted my NAS to be purely a NAS, and I’d do my server/cluster on different hardware.
I almost got a HexOS NAS (fork of trueNAS SCALE with a front-end written by a bunch of ex-unraid folks to be much easier to configure and admin), but it’s still beta and I didn’t wanna wait a few months for GA, and also it has the same requirements as trueNAS, so it’d be expensive and you also have to pay for a license.

If you go with a traditional OTS NAS, then you probably want raid 1 for a 2 bay or raid 5 if you have 4+ bays.
If you get something like truenas that uses ZFS then you want raidz1 (which is like raid5 with one parity disk). Current there are limitations with raiz if you wanna expand it later, but HexOS folks are sponsoring a ZFS feature called Any RAID, to make expanding raidz more flexible, which will presumably make it’s way to all ZFS NASes when it is finished.

I’m pretty early in my self-hosting journey, but so far I have a 2 bay Synology with cloud backup and a couple of shared volumes, a rasppi 5 running home assistant, a beelink ser5 running Ubuntu server for portainer, and a cheap VPS for pangolin.

I kinda personally agree that screenshots of someone making a joke isn’t a meme, that’s what [email protected] and etc are for.

But I don’t think it deserves moderation. It’s not so egregious that it’s harming the community.

God I hope so

I don’t think that is self hosting because I think that the game actually runs on their servers and your deck is just a client. But maybe it actually runs on the deck and the server is just for connecting the clients? 🤔

They’re party games you play together in person.

Some have analog-only equivalents but they often require you to have physical equipment, like pictionary basically requires an easel.

I don’t really disagree with you, but it’s good to meet people where they are. Party games that use a phone is better than no party games at all.

I’d love that too.
Some games like gartic phone / draw.io, codeword, balderdash, jackbox-alike type games, that I could host on my own server to avoid tracking/ads, and play with my family over holidays.

I’ve recently switched to pangolin, which works like cloudflared tunnels, and it’s been pretty good.
They offer docker support but they also support installing manually. You install pangolin on your vps via a setup script, and you install newt on a machine inside your homelab. It supports raw udp/tcp in addition to http.

I’d challenge what you said about docker, though. There is very little overhead in making a docker turduckin.
And actually docker is exactly for delivering turnkey applications, not for reproducable dev environment; I imagine that they don’t have a default data persistence because not everything needs it and that’s less secure by default. LXC (which is what you’ll mostly use in proxmox) and VMs seem more for reproducable dev environments, afaict. And there are some really good tools for managing the deployment of docker artifacts, compared to doing it yourself or using LXCs: for example dockge or portainer. I gave proxmox a try, but switched to portainer recently, because managing containers was easier and they still let you define persistent shared volumes like proxmox does.

Proxmox is still good if you need to run VMs, but if all you need is OCI/docker containers, then there are simpler alternatives, in my limited experience.

These boots are made for stumblin’
And that’s just what they’ll do
One of these days these boots
Are gonna walk away and I stumble

Crabs and fish tacos for dinner and the game is on the way home from the airport and you can come over whenever you’re free to join us if you’d like to meet up with a few people who are actually in the middle of nowhere it is just the same thing with the spiderman of the time you use it or you have to go bankrupt because you have a fiduciary duty or something like that I don’t know if you can make your life easier for the purposes of the day before you get a chance to see it again and when you have time and you don’t need me I will probably be in a good mood.

I understand they have different purposes, but one (container manager) seems far more suited to the typical things that people want to do in their homelabs, which is to host applications and application stacks.
Rarely do I see people need an interactive virtualized environment (in homelabs), except to set up those aforementioned applications, and then containers and containers stack definitions are better because having declarative way to deploy applications is better. Self-hosting projects often provide docker/OCI containers and compose files as the official way to deploy. I’m not deep in the community yet, but so far that has been my experience.
Additionally, some volume mounting options I wanted to use are only available via CLI, which is frustrating.
So I don’t really understand what value proposition proxmox provides that has causes homelabs folks to rally around it so passionately.

Having a one-stop-shop that can run VMs is handy for those last-resort scenarios where using an application container just isn’t possible, but thankfully I haven’t run into that yet. It doesn’t seem like OP has run into that yet either, if I read it correctly.
I’m not deep into my self-hosting journey, but it doesn’t seem like there are that many things that require a VM for hypervisor 🤞

Yeah I looked into dockge and I really like it, but I still went with portainer because it manages volumes directly rather than having to mount it manually and modify fstab.

I have to admit I don’t really understand the philosophy or value proposition of portainer as it relates specifically to homelabs, because I don’t really understand the value of VMs or LXCs except as last resorts (when you can’t make an application container, since defining applications declaratively almost always better).
Almost everything I want to host, and I see people talking about hosting in their homelabs, are stacks of applications, which makes something like docker compose perfect for purpose.

When I saw proxmox supported OCI containers, I was hopeful it’d provide a nice way to deploy a stack of OCI containers, but it didn’t. And in fact, some volume mounting features (that I wanted) could only be accessed by CLI.

Should I stay or should I go now?

If you stay stay to it fever
If you go stay to it fever today

Or whatever the clash said

Why did I expect this to be Loss?

I was recently trying out proxmox and found it super overkill and complex for serving stacks of software.
I switched to portainer and it was so much nicer to work with for that use case.

The one thing I miss is that proxmox can be packaged as an OS so you don’t need to worry about any setup. But I wrote a little script I can use to install portainer and configure systemd to make sure it’s always running.

I just started with portainer so I’m not an expert, but you may want to look into it.

I get this

But now it plays even with that up. I think there was another modal before but I dismissed it or something? Idk, it wasn’t playing before but now it seems to be.

I asked for dairy Queen to put a “cartoon steak” on a cake, to tease my friend who was an inconsistent vegetarian.
When I picked up the cake, it had a cartoon snake on it.

The story made the cake even better than it would have been if they did what I wanted.

Thanks, I hate it ♥️

Fine, but not because you told me to 😭

People choose their colour based on how they think it’ll affect resale value. If they pick a punchy colour, that narrows down the demand and brings down the resale price.
It’s the same thing with millennial gray.

It’s not that people don’t want colour, it’s that it costs such a huge part of their wealth that they’re scared about recouping it.