COLOURS ARE FUCKING COLOURS. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING, FRANCE?!

        • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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          4 days ago

          Gouda belongs in the left column. Or, if you want to get close to the original Dutch, in the right one. But definitely not in the second one.

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            3 days ago

            kinda, yeah… the ou in gouda is more like an au diphtong, almost as in out (in simplified english)

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              3 days ago

              If it’s coming from french it’s definitely in the second column. I didn’t know anglophones pronounced it like that

              • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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                3 days ago

                The French have more than enough cheeses on their own.

                Gouda is Dutch. Definitely. I’ve been there. I’ve bought the cheese there.

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                  3 days ago

                  Yes it’s dutch, but the word Gouda in the English language could be coming from french, and the pronunciation in french these days is like the second column

                  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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                    2 days ago

                    There is no reason for “Gouda” coming from French. The Dutch have been quite able to trade with England, especially London, for a long time, and have contributed to the English language all on their own.

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          4 days ago

          Well the Anglo-Saxons should gave fought better at Hastings, then there wouldn’t be French words here. But I’m not sure it would be simpler.

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            3 days ago

            It would still be a mixup. Starting from Celtic, then western Germanic (Angels and Saxons), Latin, northern Germanic (Scandinavians) already form a wild brew. French is only the latest major addition.