First off you said social sciences were illegitimate also you have a very feeble grasp of what makes a field legitimate, we obviously have not found an encompassing theory for all society, but so what? The same is true fo physics, maths and so many other fields. You seem like a disgruntled stemlord and I would invite you to engage in some self reflection (and I understand in the west this may only be for the privileged few but) you should also try engage with these subfields a bit before denouncing the entire field.
Holy shit you’re either playing daft and are tedious or you’re tedious and daft. When it’s worded there is no legitimate social sciences the glaring mistake the pluralization given correct grammar would be there are no legitimate social sciences.
If that’s your deductive prowess on display it’s no wonder you seen confused.
Wow abelism from a debatelord never seen that before. Apologies that my grammar isn’t perfect in my fourth language your majesty I’ll try do better in the future /s
The fact is you’re wrong and are simply trying to find anything you can to weasel out of facing that fact that the field of social science is real, it’s subfields are legitimate and you have nothing but vibes and misunderstandings behind your thought to try hold up some vague heir of superiority you feel.
Daft isn’t ableist find something else to cry about. Daft punk, the ableist band huh?
Add all of those together and it still doesn’t equal society hence social sciences not social science, ie. The sciences that apply to society not societal sciences because that couldn’t possibly be objective or would have to be subjective. Ps. So that’s daft and tedious, you could have just said so.
Daft when used as a pejorative (a stand in for calling someone crazy or deranged) absolutely is.
Again simply because the field is yet to be completed doesn’t make it illegitimate. Physics has yet to be unified, math has yet to be completed yet they remain science. You are severely uninformed and again I implore you to do some self reflection and actually engage with the science and scientific community. You are not as intelligent as you think and clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
Daft is usually a pejorative, it isn’t however ableist that’s just crybaby bullshit you’re using to try move the conversation into culture war bullshit instead of the actual conversation.
Quite literally the exact reason it’s not a science. Science is evidence based l, objective and repeatable. You’re implying at some point without any evidence whatsoever that we could end up finding everything is objectively provable through what I can only assume is psychohistory which isn’t likely our at all reasonable to assume. The fact the argument started as questioning if morals have weight is just more evidence that social science could never exist only social sciences. Ie. Sciences that relate to society not the science of society because that isn’t a thing.
Daft is usually a pejorative, it isn’t however ableist that’s just crybaby bullshit you’re using to try move the conversation into culture war bullshit instead of the actual conversation.
Calling someone crazy or deranged is absolutely ableist. The only one here trying to change the conversation is you.
You’re implying at some point without any evidence whatsoever that we could end up finding everything is objectively provable through what I can only assume is psychohistory which isn’t likely our at all reasonable to assume
Entirely not what I said, like completely not even in the same area of anything I said genuinely impressive strawman building.
I wonder what you call the field to which the sub fields you call social sciences might belong, it couldn’t possibly be called social science as an umbrella term?!?!?!
You are unintelligent, uninformed and massively arrogant. You clearly have never interacted with or contributed anything to the scientific community and it really shows. Please take some time to reflect instead of continuing to be a debatepervert.
It doesn’t solely mean crazy or deranged, it can also mean plain stupid. Take a crack at which I meant. Similarly that still doesn’t make it ableist bud.
That’s absolutely your implication hence the word imply.
It’s not, there’s natural science, social sciences and humanities.
So far you’ve proved nuh uh and the same attitude and arrogance, calm down there pot.
It doesn’t solely mean crazy or deranged, it can also mean plain stupid. Take a crack at which I meant. Similarly that still doesn’t make it ableist bud.
Yes it does bud. You are a an albeist asshole and should be ashamed of yourself.
That’s absolutely your implication hence the word imply.
But it wasn’t it was a straw man not even in the same area of thought of anything I said.
It’s not, there’s natural science, social sciences and humanities.
I wish I could be as confident as you in just saying shit it really is a skill for the privileged.
Pot
See the difference between us is I have interacted with and contributed to the scientific community through my PhD and time as a researcher at a university whereas you given everything I’ve seen most likely didn’t make it past mandatory schooling.
You reek of YouTube university educated stemlord.
That’s why people started referring to natural science as empirical science, you’re not making the point you think you are because that’s a sticking point in science.
It’s just been referred to as “natural ___” since like 3000bc or something crazy like that, it’ll take a minute to break the habit.
Please stop arguing about shit you have no clue of by making shit up while you go.
Morals have weight homie, hand waving away immoral acts by saying they’re just opinions is obtuse at best.
You lost the argument up there.
How do you measure the weight of morals? What happens if you leave the dimension of mere opinion? Please do not answer.
First off you said social sciences were illegitimate also you have a very feeble grasp of what makes a field legitimate, we obviously have not found an encompassing theory for all society, but so what? The same is true fo physics, maths and so many other fields. You seem like a disgruntled stemlord and I would invite you to engage in some self reflection (and I understand in the west this may only be for the privileged few but) you should also try engage with these subfields a bit before denouncing the entire field.
Holy shit you’re either playing daft and are tedious or you’re tedious and daft. When it’s worded there is no legitimate social sciences the glaring mistake the pluralization given correct grammar would be there are no legitimate social sciences.
If that’s your deductive prowess on display it’s no wonder you seen confused.
Go back to Reddit
Aww, just personal attacks now? Have you given up on your weak ass argument already?
Buddy look in the mirror, youre the one who reported to ad hominem
Wow abelism from a debatelord never seen that before. Apologies that my grammar isn’t perfect in my fourth language your majesty I’ll try do better in the future /s
The fact is you’re wrong and are simply trying to find anything you can to weasel out of facing that fact that the field of social science is real, it’s subfields are legitimate and you have nothing but vibes and misunderstandings behind your thought to try hold up some vague heir of superiority you feel.
Daft isn’t ableist find something else to cry about. Daft punk, the ableist band huh?
Add all of those together and it still doesn’t equal society hence social sciences not social science, ie. The sciences that apply to society not societal sciences because that couldn’t possibly be objective or would have to be subjective. Ps. So that’s daft and tedious, you could have just said so.
Daft when used as a pejorative (a stand in for calling someone crazy or deranged) absolutely is.
Again simply because the field is yet to be completed doesn’t make it illegitimate. Physics has yet to be unified, math has yet to be completed yet they remain science. You are severely uninformed and again I implore you to do some self reflection and actually engage with the science and scientific community. You are not as intelligent as you think and clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
Daft is usually a pejorative, it isn’t however ableist that’s just crybaby bullshit you’re using to try move the conversation into culture war bullshit instead of the actual conversation.
Quite literally the exact reason it’s not a science. Science is evidence based l, objective and repeatable. You’re implying at some point without any evidence whatsoever that we could end up finding everything is objectively provable through what I can only assume is psychohistory which isn’t likely our at all reasonable to assume. The fact the argument started as questioning if morals have weight is just more evidence that social science could never exist only social sciences. Ie. Sciences that relate to society not the science of society because that isn’t a thing.
Calling someone crazy or deranged is absolutely ableist. The only one here trying to change the conversation is you.
Entirely not what I said, like completely not even in the same area of anything I said genuinely impressive strawman building.
I wonder what you call the field to which the sub fields you call social sciences might belong, it couldn’t possibly be called social science as an umbrella term?!?!?!
You are unintelligent, uninformed and massively arrogant. You clearly have never interacted with or contributed anything to the scientific community and it really shows. Please take some time to reflect instead of continuing to be a debatepervert.
It doesn’t solely mean crazy or deranged, it can also mean plain stupid. Take a crack at which I meant. Similarly that still doesn’t make it ableist bud.
That’s absolutely your implication hence the word imply.
It’s not, there’s natural science, social sciences and humanities.
So far you’ve proved nuh uh and the same attitude and arrogance, calm down there pot.
Yes it does bud. You are a an albeist asshole and should be ashamed of yourself.
But it wasn’t it was a straw man not even in the same area of thought of anything I said.
I wish I could be as confident as you in just saying shit it really is a skill for the privileged.
See the difference between us is I have interacted with and contributed to the scientific community through my PhD and time as a researcher at a university whereas you given everything I’ve seen most likely didn’t make it past mandatory schooling. You reek of YouTube university educated stemlord.
There is no natural science.
Depends on what you define natural sciences as I imagine but under the generally accepted definition (geology, biology etc.) it 100% exists.
Add all of those together and it still doesn’t equal nature hence natural sciences not natural science.
That’s why people started referring to natural science as empirical science, you’re not making the point you think you are because that’s a sticking point in science.
It’s just been referred to as “natural ___” since like 3000bc or something crazy like that, it’ll take a minute to break the habit.
Please stop arguing about shit you have no clue of by making shit up while you go.
You lost the argument up there.
How do you measure the weight of morals? What happens if you leave the dimension of mere opinion? Please do not answer.