Often times when there was a big new update for GNOME, I’d try it out, decide I still don’t like the concept and go back to plasma.
I don’t get the appeal of that desktop. Even the tiniest changes need gnome-tweaks? Why isn’t that stuff part of the base settings? But ok. You can’t ungimp GNOME. The usage concept is baked into it. Fine. But why?
I mean there must be people who want this and nothing else, otherwise people wouldn’t use it.
I don’t really like to talk about it on here because people are very hostile towards GNOME and its users, but I used it (extensionless, tweakless) for about 4 years up until recently. Very comfy and efficient workflow in my opinion. I think a lot of people don’t take the time to understand how it works, they get frustrated and want their alt-tabbing and minimizing back. Either way I don’t really care. No emotional attachment to any DE, and I use neither GNOME nor Plasma right now.
Currently using niri. It’s not easy to explain, but you could say it takes GNOME’s concept of infinite horizontal workspaces and applies it to individual windows.
Because putting QoL improvements and having an effective workflow behind a bunch of plugins that break on the tiniest Gnome update is all part of the user experience I guess. I’ve given it several tries over the past 20 years or so, but each attempt eventually ended in utter disappointment.
I don’t believe you. Gnome 2 was pretty much universally loved (hence the existence of Cinnamon, which is a direct descendant), and people were pissed about the tablet-oriented Gnome 3. You’d know this if you used Gnome 20 years ago.
I used gnome then, when Ubuntu would send you free CDs and GNOME was poo-flavoured. It was harder to set things up then, and I kind of see why people gave up and used some hack of the windowing kit from GIMP. Much has happened it 20 years though. KDE got worse (imho, but we have Trinity), GNOME stayed worse, and Linux became easy and mainstream.
You don’t even have a reliable way to keep track of your disk usage anymore. That was the final drop for me when they removed “Other locations” where I could see how much space was left. The Disk Usage Analyzer app is a complete mess and don’t give an easy “you got 10 gigs left mate.” I had to resort to the terminal to get good accurate measures. Now I have a percentage in my taskbar in Plasma.
I guess I’m one of the few people who matches gnome pretty well. I actually appreciate that the default is 90% of what I need, and don’t mind if the last 10% is maintained outside of the core project. Scope creep and all that.
My conspiracy theory is that it is pushed so much by Red Hat because they have optimized it to be as boring and distraction free as possible to increase productivity in an enterprise context. It is useless outside of that.
I didnt try KDE and only used GNOME and XFCE, but i guess it’s easy and clean side. I immediately get a hold of most applications, and everything feels polished without touching anything. And when i want to get something specific, i’m generally fine with complex tweakings, so the weird ways of finetuning it don’t really bother me.
Often times when there was a big new update for GNOME, I’d try it out, decide I still don’t like the concept and go back to plasma.
I don’t get the appeal of that desktop. Even the tiniest changes need gnome-tweaks? Why isn’t that stuff part of the base settings? But ok. You can’t ungimp GNOME. The usage concept is baked into it. Fine. But why?
I mean there must be people who want this and nothing else, otherwise people wouldn’t use it.
For me it kinda always went something like this:
“Hey can I have window labels on my taskbar? And maybe quicklaunch. Also can I type in paths in the file manager?”
KDE: “Sure no prob.”
GNOME: “You are an enemy of Christ.”
I don’t really like to talk about it on here because people are very hostile towards GNOME and its users, but I used it (extensionless, tweakless) for about 4 years up until recently. Very comfy and efficient workflow in my opinion. I think a lot of people don’t take the time to understand how it works, they get frustrated and want their alt-tabbing and minimizing back. Either way I don’t really care. No emotional attachment to any DE, and I use neither GNOME nor Plasma right now.
What do you use currently? I’ve been using GNOME for a few years now, but I like to try new things (then switch back to GNOME, naturally.)
Currently using niri. It’s not easy to explain, but you could say it takes GNOME’s concept of infinite horizontal workspaces and applies it to individual windows.
Because putting QoL improvements and having an effective workflow behind a bunch of plugins that break on the tiniest Gnome update is all part of the user experience I guess. I’ve given it several tries over the past 20 years or so, but each attempt eventually ended in utter disappointment.
I don’t believe you. Gnome 2 was pretty much universally loved (hence the existence of Cinnamon, which is a direct descendant), and people were pissed about the tablet-oriented Gnome 3. You’d know this if you used Gnome 20 years ago.
I used gnome then, when Ubuntu would send you free CDs and GNOME was poo-flavoured. It was harder to set things up then, and I kind of see why people gave up and used some hack of the windowing kit from GIMP. Much has happened it 20 years though. KDE got worse (imho, but we have Trinity), GNOME stayed worse, and Linux became easy and mainstream.
Well, my apologies for misremembering the exact Gnome 3 launch date. Turns out that was 15 years ago instead of 20. You caught me red-handed sir.
You don’t even have a reliable way to keep track of your disk usage anymore. That was the final drop for me when they removed “Other locations” where I could see how much space was left. The Disk Usage Analyzer app is a complete mess and don’t give an easy “you got 10 gigs left mate.” I had to resort to the terminal to get good accurate measures. Now I have a percentage in my taskbar in Plasma.
I guess I’m one of the few people who matches gnome pretty well. I actually appreciate that the default is 90% of what I need, and don’t mind if the last 10% is maintained outside of the core project. Scope creep and all that.
My conspiracy theory is that it is pushed so much by Red Hat because they have optimized it to be as boring and distraction free as possible to increase productivity in an enterprise context. It is useless outside of that.
I didnt try KDE and only used GNOME and XFCE, but i guess it’s easy and clean side. I immediately get a hold of most applications, and everything feels polished without touching anything. And when i want to get something specific, i’m generally fine with complex tweakings, so the weird ways of finetuning it don’t really bother me.