It is as psychedelic as dmt it just isn’t pleasurable at all. On breakthrough doses your awareness is altered but you aren’t intoxicated like on the classical psychedelics. It is a hard one to explain but you are disassociated in the regular sense, the ego death is real but not in the numinous way of serotonergic drugs. I was once a square wheel on a truck. And I lived a whole life that way. I remember way more of what happens in my salvia breakthroughs than in my dmt ones. I think the dmt ones would be just as unpleasant though if dmt wasn’t itself pleasurable.