• zephiriz@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    Yes true but the red trolley someone will hang out the window and shoot you. The blue trolley will just keep trucking.

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      Biden and Harris bragged about being tougher on immigration than Trump. They started and escalated the current state of Palestinian genocide. Biden had cops arrest protesters.

      The difference between the two trolleys is that, as long as its red, then liberals are capable of acknowledging the trolley is bad.

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        Funny how you don’t deny that the red one will shoot me. You just agreed with the meme that things stay the same. As I agree things stay the same. But the red one is most is more willing to hurt me.

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          The difference between the two trolleys is that, as long as its red, then liberals are capable of acknowledging the trolley is bad.

          Funny how your eyes glazed over the part where I made it clear there’s no difference. Are you dense or something?

          Incidentally, every thing the red one does gets normalised by the blue one. “Tough on crime”, “tough on immigration”, “tax cuts for the wealthy”, “insider trading”, “being an insane warmonger”, “being unfit for the office”, “the climate”, these things used to be stuff that was the reason why we *had * to vote blue. Now they’re things that you shouldnt talk about lest the red team wins. The last thing that made it the most important election was genocide and not even that was a red line, so now even genocide is just something you have to accept. Seems like a great strategy to continue voting for the people that shoot at you. I guess you have to, it is the most important election in our lifetime after all.

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            I’m curious what’s the goal of not voting? What’s your goal? If I don’t vote red wins if I do vote blue wins and by what you say everything stays the same. So what’s the point if it other than saying. I’m bad and dumb. Maybe I am?

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              Im curious, whats the goal of continuing to vote for a party that shows no regard to any of your interests?
              Whats the point in loudly declaring “Even though you do fuck all to curtail climate change; you keep expanding the fascist surveillance state; you bomb whoever you want and shit out money for all your friends while hunting down homeless people and immigrants for sport; you do nothing to fight for the rights of women, queer people and other marginalised groups; even though you frequently sabotage orgs like ACORN - to your own detriment - and do other stuff to further erode the vague notion of governmental institutions we have left; even though you’re committing genocide and actively working against any progressive initiative; even though Donald Trump was literally propelled in the media due to YOUR Pied Piper strategy; well, I’ll still unconditionally vote for you. This is, after all, the most important election and there’s a dang cheeto in the white house. Or a bush. Or a Reagan or a Nixon or whoever else. And hey, if you win the election but then get ratfucked, I’ll cheer you on when you throw your hands in the air and do nothing about it! Gotta remain civil! Can’t in any way threaten you dear blue dogs, that might make it harder for you to get elected and this is the most important election in our lifetimes! You do not have to win my vote!”

              To me it seems like further entrenching a political elite into a position of “Holy shit we can do anything we want with no repercussions, let’s give another trillion dollars to Israel, pass out more fracking initiatives, foment some more coups and give more money to cops, theres clearly no reason not to!” is a terrible strategy, and it seems like my analysis is supported by the clear depreciation of political standards in the US. Every election more red lines get crossed and it does not matter.
              There was once a time when it would matter if a politician was so obviously corrupt as the dem leadership is. Writing the crime bill would once have barred you from office. Or being aremoved. There was a brief window where passing out massive fracking contracts or mindlessly giving even more money to the police would have been something that you couldnt just do. Now dems are cheering on a modern Holocaust and it does not matter because you gotta vote blue! They’re slightly nicer on camera!

              Seems like continuing to vote for democrats have only had the effect of giving more power to out of touch ghouls. Seems like this strategy has proven not to work for quite a while, so maybe, just maybe, it might be worth it to do something else.

              Personally I’d recommend you vote for PSL, I do not get why you think “dont vote for democrats” somehow means “dont vote”. But if the alternative to not voting blue is not voting for you, then it would be better if you didnt vote.

              In other words: Whats the point in voting for the murdertrolley?

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                Doesn’t this whole post limply that voting doesn’t matter. Now all of a sudden you say I should vote? I should just vote for the people you say or maybe I should vote for the person who most represents my values. And I do do that, well the lesser of 2 evils. I know the 2 party system sucks. And I’ll vote for 3rd party when I can but I also know voting 3rd party often means a vote taken away from my 2nd choice. So I’ll vote how I see fit which it sounds like what you’re saying to do.

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                  There is nothing lesser about the evil of a party committing genocide unless you consider their victims to be lesser.

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                    1 hour ago

                    Both party’s committed genocide. So as the post suggests what does it matter. Should I vote? Not vote? Vote 3rd party or the person I view as lesser of 2 evils?

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                  The post makes it clear that there is no difference between voting democrat or republican. Why are you being obtuse?

                  Furthermore, before I answer more of your half-brained questions, answer mine.