• mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    24 hours ago

    if we are to raise livestock for consumption they should be treated as the sentient

    this is a contradiction in itself.

    It is normal and healthy for people to empathize with the animals they eat, to be concerned about whether or not they are living happy lives and to hope they are slaughtered humanely. However, if it is unethical to harm these animals, then it is more unethical to kill them.

    Killing animals for food is far worse than making them suffer. Of course, it is admirable that people care so deeply about these animals that they take deliberate steps to reduce their suffering (e.g. by purchasing “free-range” eggs or “suffering free” meat). However, because they choose not to acknowledge the right of those same animals to live out their natural lives, and because slaughtering them is a much greater violation than mistreatment, people who eat ‘humane’ meat are laboring under an irreconcilable contradiction.

    from https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/humane-meat

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      47 minutes ago

      The “natural life” of all animals bred for meat ends with their slaughter, by definition. Otherwise they wouldn’t exist? Their purpose is not to die of old age, that itself would be a horribly cruel existence past the point when slaughter would normally occur.

      None of these creatures exist in nature. If they’re going to exist at all, why not give the best life and fulfillment of purpose if you can?

      • mathemachristian [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        28 minutes ago

        you have an incredibly bleak outlook on the “purpose” of a life. The slave is bred for the purpose of toiling for their master their entire life, does that justify anything? Hell the only reason the worker gets a wage is so they can work for the capitalist. The only reason people get maternity leave etc. is to breed more workers, that’s your purpose in life.

        Only the oppressor has a free choice in their lifes purpose. Well, somehow they always choose to oppress more so who knows. At least we have that old debate finally sorted.

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      2 hours ago

      I don’t even eat meat and I disagree completely with that lol. There is nothing wrong or unnatural about killing animals for food. There is something wrong and unnatural about abusing the lives of those animals and treating them with no respect.