It’s going to become real annoying researching and googling for (actual) steam machines. /j
Also, this isn’t reddit so I feel safe saying fuck you Gabe and all your billions with years of overcharging developers, gambling for kids, and milking users, shitting on game-dev, etc. you yacht-loving fatass could not at least do something good for a change and subsidize/sell at no loss/gain instead of again milking users? At this point valve makes absurd amount of money per employee, something like next 3 companies combined. I cannot be a redditor anymore and simp for this dude like they simped for Elon.
Just search for a boiler or steam turbine/engine depending on what you are looking for. Steam machine isn’t a common term for those things anyways, AFAIK.
Eh, dudes running a business fairly well (as in both making money and customers mostly happy)
30% cut is basically the same as physical and comes with handling downloads and updates and all on their servers. Could be less for sure, but when it started that was mostly reasonable. The fact that large games go down to 20% and smaller games are stuck at 30% sucks.
The gambling I agree, just because it is common across the gaming industry doesn’t make it okay. Even if how they do it is “less bad” it’s still shitty. The milking users idk what you mean outside the gambling bit but sure.
Shitting on game-dev? Him saying they need to learn AI? I agree fuck that.
The steam machine is not horrible value for a prebuilt, it’s just a horrible time for a prebuilt, and its tiny ass form factor makes for weird choices that limit it but like whatever. If you want a tiny thing to put under the TV to play games it ain’t bad, but there are also other options. Selling at a loss is generally an anticompetitive strategy to get market share over those who cannot afford to so I would generally disagree on that.
Selling at a loss is generally an anticompetitive strategy
Never said selling at loss. I said selling at no profit. Quite different. Sony does this with playstation where their margins for playstation itself is basically zero, but it’s a platform like steam where steam/Sony makes money. Sure, steam machine can be used outside steam, but still, they’re rich enough to do good.
While they don’t directly set prices, they do influence it with monopoly and anti-competitive behaviour with rules like “you can’t sell your game cheaper on other platforms”. Only in 2024 did they remove the controversial “no sue” clause., which then prompted bunch of lawsuits, mostly around anti-trust behaviour.
The 30% cut is extremely outdated as 100gb HDD no longer costs more than your ram, internet is not metered in megabytes and infrastructure valve uses gas gotten really cheap, so by now they’re drowning in money while still not lowering fees, rising prices for hardware and practicing closed loop economy taxation (which pretty much no one else does)
It’s going to become real annoying researching and googling for (actual) steam machines. /j
Also, this isn’t reddit so I feel safe saying fuck you Gabe and all your billions with years of overcharging developers, gambling for kids, and milking users, shitting on game-dev, etc. you yacht-loving fatass could not at least do something good for a change and subsidize/sell at no loss/gain instead of again milking users? At this point valve makes absurd amount of money per employee, something like next 3 companies combined. I cannot be a redditor anymore and simp for this dude like they simped for Elon.
You ain’t gonna search “steam machine” if you wanna build a steam engine or a boiler anyway
Just search for a boiler or steam turbine/engine depending on what you are looking for. Steam machine isn’t a common term for those things anyways, AFAIK.
Eh, dudes running a business fairly well (as in both making money and customers mostly happy)
30% cut is basically the same as physical and comes with handling downloads and updates and all on their servers. Could be less for sure, but when it started that was mostly reasonable. The fact that large games go down to 20% and smaller games are stuck at 30% sucks.
The gambling I agree, just because it is common across the gaming industry doesn’t make it okay. Even if how they do it is “less bad” it’s still shitty. The milking users idk what you mean outside the gambling bit but sure.
Shitting on game-dev? Him saying they need to learn AI? I agree fuck that.
The steam machine is not horrible value for a prebuilt, it’s just a horrible time for a prebuilt, and its tiny ass form factor makes for weird choices that limit it but like whatever. If you want a tiny thing to put under the TV to play games it ain’t bad, but there are also other options. Selling at a loss is generally an anticompetitive strategy to get market share over those who cannot afford to so I would generally disagree on that.
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Never said selling at loss. I said selling at no profit. Quite different. Sony does this with playstation where their margins for playstation itself is basically zero, but it’s a platform like steam where steam/Sony makes money. Sure, steam machine can be used outside steam, but still, they’re rich enough to do good.
Have you seen the pay each employee gets? Everyone that works at valve are multi millionaires.
Yeah, that’s my entire point. The corporation is drowning in money, yet they still try to milk us
What do you mean milk? Steam didn’t set the prices of your games, the developers and publishers do.
They also don’t require that you buy their hardware, and release steam OS for free.
While they don’t directly set prices, they do influence it with monopoly and anti-competitive behaviour with rules like “you can’t sell your game cheaper on other platforms”. Only in 2024 did they remove the controversial “no sue” clause., which then prompted bunch of lawsuits, mostly around anti-trust behaviour.
The 30% cut is extremely outdated as 100gb HDD no longer costs more than your ram, internet is not metered in megabytes and infrastructure valve uses gas gotten really cheap, so by now they’re drowning in money while still not lowering fees, rising prices for hardware and practicing closed loop economy taxation (which pretty much no one else does)