• Blaster M@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    It’s a skill issue on the driver’s part… or do you want the Tesla to come to a screeching halt on the highway every time the cameras white out from the sun?

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        2 days ago

        Autopilot will let a plane fly a heading, or even follow waypoints and land, but you the pilot still have to be watching the sky and the plane, ready to take over when something goes wrong. And airlines have way more stringent safety measures than cars.

        That means auto drive systems still require the meatsack to monitor the driving, ready to take over when something goes wrong.

        In this case, either the driver was hooning it and did a full send into the house, or he had a skill issue and put the brake accelerator to the floor in a panic moment.

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          2 days ago

          Right so if autopilot swerves into oncoming traffic faster than the driver can react, that’s the drivers fault? The creators of the software never have any culpability in your eyes?

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      2 days ago

      I want vehicles that rely on cameras for detecting obstacles to be banned.

      Anything that uses reasonable object detection methods should be banned if it lets you drive into a house. My Kia won’t let me drive into a house.

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        Honestly curious, what will your Kia do if you point it at a house and floor the accelerator from a few hundred meters away? I have no idea how my BYD would react and I’m not eager to test it. It has emergency braking, but I don’t know how effective that actually is.

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          if you point it at a house and floor the accelerator from a few hundred meters away?

          I don’t know for sure and I can’t think of a good way to test. It certainly wouldn’t hit it when “driving itself” with smart cruise control or if I tried to drive into it from a few metres away.

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            Well yeah, but it seems likely in this case the accelerator was being floored, dunno for how long. So much as I hate to give tesla a pass, they’re probably not really at fault here unless new info appears.

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            And what if you were doing 70mph for a few hundred meters before the house?

            You’d be going right into that house. No car will stop that.

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          2 days ago

          My kid tried to drive it into a hedge and it wouldn’t let them. Not the same as accelerating from across the road at a house but also the car makes no self driving claims.

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        1 day ago

        You may as well say you want people banned from driving then. We use “cameras” for object detection.

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              1 day ago

              Do you understand that the whole point of self driving cars is to not have humans with eyes and depth perception doing the driving?

              Computers can’t even reliably differentiate between B and 8.

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                22 hours ago

                It’s to not have humans doing the driving, so people don’t have to drive. It has nothing to do with the biology/mechanics of how we see.

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      2 days ago

      I’d want it to not use sensors that get washed out by the sun. IR lidar, for example, instead of naive visible light cameras.

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      Personally, I want cars that automate driving to use more than one type of sensor so that they react more realistically in more circumstances. Tesla going camera-only was a mistake and Elon just keeps doubling down on it.