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    il y a 1 jour

    This is a great and succinct summary of the core issue of “ai”. Without consciousness there can never be anything that makes art art.

    Just Data algorithmically crafting poems about cat facts, if you excuse the trek reference.

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      Good reference, but I feel Data is a poor example.

      Data was proved to be both intelligent and self aware, and even though consciousness was inconclusive he was considered sentient.

      He was able to create poetry and art, only initially by algorithmic imitation because he didn’t understand it. As he grew as a “person” his artistic pursuits, painting, poetry, music, and literature, defined his character because he himself chased their meaning, not because someone asked him to peruse them.

      Edit: also I’d like to point out that Data has been both horny and sad

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        Definitely good points you are making, but his art has also variously been described as soulless or things to that effect, because he can perfectly play a musical piece or make an almost photorealistic painting, but struggles to go beyond surface concepts (not to mention when he is asked to sculpt music).

        Though ultimately i would agree that data is not the best example, because as you said he sometimes gets a taste of what he is lacking, and also, because he has an actual consciousness.

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      I think one of the reasons why AI ““art”” appeals to those on the right is that it is “objectively” beautiful and in the future probably “perfect” as well, since they see our entire existance as metrics, data and numbers