• geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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    10 hours ago

    He participated in the Fallujah and Ramadi massacares and was a concentration camp guard at Abu Graib and joined Blackwater.

    Why don’t you ask for proof of him raping that white woman?

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      I see he was deployed at those times (not that he participated necessarily), don’t see anything about Abu Graib, and yes obviously he joined Blackwater. That doesn’t mean those things aren’t true obviously.

      The woman did provide proof.

      I just want to know what’s real and not the worst possible made up scenario.

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          And the military also does what it can to cover up for war crimes; look up the immediate aftermath of basically any war crime

          In the aftermath of the Haditha massacre for example, the military claimed a blast killed 15 civilians and military thugs killed eight insurgents

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        10 hours ago

        Did she provide video evidence?

        Are you sure the video wasn’t AI?

        Come on just keep doubling down like you’ve been doing for his war crimes against brown children.

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          I am not aware of any specific war crimes he participated in. I mistakenly gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he had grown from the kind of uncritical person who joins the military, hence leaving it and running on anti-imperialist policy.

          But the rape was in 2023.

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              It’s not unreasonable to see a guy who comes away from the military saying “Hey this is bad and we shouldn’t do it” and be easily led to believe the guy saw what he was a part of and understood it needs to be stopped. Every successful revolution includes former soldiers of the regime who’ve realized they were on the wrong side.

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                It’s not unreasonable to see a guy who comes away from the military saying “Hey this is bad and we shouldn’t do it”

                He didn’t do that. He bragged about his atrocities as an ‘excellent experience’.
                Why are you still trying to pretend that he showed any sort of remorse?

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                He returned from his tour…

                And then did another tour

                And then did another tour

                And then did another tour

                And then joined Blackwater…

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                  Like holy shit how can people possibly even just glance at that history and think “wow, this is a sane, reasonable, and well-adjusted person”

                  This guy could go on stage and scream “I LOVE KILLING PEOPLE SO MUCH!!!” and people would still defend him, even though… wait… isn’t that literally what one of his accusers said he would talk about all the time is enjoying war & killing people?

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                that is not even the case. in most marxist leninist states former imperial/royalist army officials were either kept because of greater forces, purged, or entirely dismantled through the ongoing period of revolution/guerrilla warfare. im not going to say it never happened but it’s not like you shouldn’t treat former (to say the least) participants in war crimes against the proletariat with nothing but the ultimate suspicion.

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                He was in the military for eight (8) years! He went on three (3) tours to Iraq that included Ramadi, Fallujah and Abu Ghraib! When asked why he said “he wanted to play soldier” and “he wanted go on an adventure and kill some people”! He went on another tour in Afghanistan and then once more as a blackwater (constellis) merc! I have never seen him repentant or apologetic of what he did and support.

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                Platner is an unashamed imperialist and by personal accounts loved being a mercenary in Iraq. He doesn’t seem regretful at all and made no real attempt at asking for forgiveness.

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            Iraq. The entirety of Iraq was a war crime. Collin Powell even came out and said there were never weapons of mass destruction and they lied to the UN. He gave that interview with the Guardian early in 2004. Fallujah was in November later that year.

            The US lied about WMDs and illegally invaded a country that had neither attacked them or an ally, nor was it at war with any other country. That’s a war crime and why Germany had the Treaty of Versailles placed on it for invading neutral Belgium.

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                At the point when someone has volunteered to do that many tours, I think the burden of proof is on them to prove that they did not commit war crimes.

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                Yup. I was just pointing out how there were no doubts in 2004 the Iraq War was illegal. Platner joined up after then-secretary Powell confessed the whole thing was a sham. It’s not like he joined up on September 12th. 2001, naively believing the US was a force for good. He joined when everyone knew what was being done to the Middle East was a crime.

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            This was him in 2020.

            The rape was in 2023. It’s 2026 now. Like who cares, the past is the past. He has grown past it right? He also said people need to respect women during his campaign and rape is bad. Why won’t you accept his personal growth?!