• CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I came to say basically the same thing. Its all toxic. And really the only way to get an under16 only ban to work is to force online ID which should never exist, so fuck that

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      That’s not true. Just hold parents accountable and let anyone report under 16s using social media. Once enough parents have stories of their punishment people will keep their kids off it.

      • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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        That’s a terrible enforcement mechanism. Do you not remember being under 16 or are you just naive? I did a bunch of shit I never told my parents about. They can’t watch me 24/7.

        • atrielienz@lemmy.world
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          If your child gets hold of a weapon and hurts themselves or someone else then you are liable. I don’t really see how this is much different but I’m all ears.

          And yes, I am a parent who’s kid doesn’t have social media. And yes, I am aware that we need to be educating parents on how to use parental controls and enforcing their use (on platform side as well as in the home).

          • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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            First off, very few people have been held accountable in your example situation. Which is a travesty IMO. Secondly, it’s far easier to keep track of and store a weapon. Thirdly, the risk is completely different.

            • atrielienz@lemmy.world
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              Let’s try again. Let’s say your kid gets ahold of spray paint and vandalizes some property. Many kids and parents have been held accountable in that situation and the risk isn’t really the point, it’s just moving goal posts.

              The point is that as a parent you are responsible for the safety and well being of your child. Which proves you can be held accountable.

                • atrielienz@lemmy.world
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                  Who pays the fine when your kid gets a ticket on a leaners permit?

                  Do you see where I’m going with this. Either the government is going to actually put the world in to enforce a common sense law the easiest way they can, or they’re going to do what they’ve been doing and get the results they’ve been getting while using it for their ulterior motive which is to surveil the general population.