Looking back at computing history, cloud computing is basically reverting back to the original mainframes and dedicated terminals.
There was a hype of using thin clients, the concept is that you get just enough hardware and software to be able to connect to a session running on a shared server, the admin can allocate more resources like CPU cores, RAM and storage as individual needs change over time.
As an IT guy, I do like the concept in a corporate environment, especially when looking at the SunRay system from Sun, which used smartcards for easier access, you put your card into the client and if configured properly, you got your old session loaded and ready in a few sec, regardless of which client you put your card into.
The YT channel Clabretro has several interesting SunRay videos.
It sucks that the world we live in is the way it is because in theory this would be an ideal model for so many people. Older adults I know really just need a Facebook terminal but are required to buy a whole computer. If anything at all goes wrong with it they freak out and buy a brand new one. So much tech waste and so much hardware not being used for the majority of the time. If they had lightweight terminals there’d be less issues on their end but even if they replaced it at the first issue, it wouldn’t be an entire computer getting trashed. Since all they use is the occasional facebook the mandatory internet thing wouldn’t even be an issue. Plenty of younger people might also be good candidates for this since they basically exclusively use online features too.
Obviously I would never trust this kind of service for a variety of reasons, but in theory the world could really benefit from that model.
Yup, there’s a cycle between centralization and edge. Started with centralization, mainframes, went edge with the first PCs (and game consoles) and ever since corpos have been trying to pull it back to the center in waves. Thin client, cloud compute, arguably phones (as apps processing in the cloud), Geforce Now, AI. So far it’s always gone back to the edge for most of the population, except for niche cases (or not in the case of phones). As internet gets faster and more reliable the chance of it sticking longer in the central zone increases (IMO).
As internet gets faster and more reliable the chance of it sticking longer in the central zone increases
It also allow the opposite, the fediverse is a living example of it, the more internet is faster the more we can organize better to decentralize, it’s harder that someone get in contact with the decentralized internet but it’s more probable that it happen now than 7 years ago
Some companies also would still continue to sell consumer hardware (like Framework, probably)
I see it as a fight, companies are currently winning sadly but we have the power to win too
Heartily agree. I was trying for objectivity, personally you’ll take my general purpose computers from my cold dead hands, and I will encourage everyone I can to support it.
I take some solace from the general pendulum nature of the process (and societal evolution in general), this too shall pass. Doesn’t mean we don’t need to fight. Evil triumphs when good people do nothing.
As an end user with this model at work, I hate this slow-ass shit that keeps freezing on me and randomly disconnects. Not fun or productive when it starts talking seconds to register a click because the connection becomes unstable for no apparent reason.
Looking back at computing history, cloud computing is basically reverting back to the original mainframes and dedicated terminals.
There was a hype of using thin clients, the concept is that you get just enough hardware and software to be able to connect to a session running on a shared server, the admin can allocate more resources like CPU cores, RAM and storage as individual needs change over time.
As an IT guy, I do like the concept in a corporate environment, especially when looking at the SunRay system from Sun, which used smartcards for easier access, you put your card into the client and if configured properly, you got your old session loaded and ready in a few sec, regardless of which client you put your card into.
The YT channel Clabretro has several interesting SunRay videos.
It sucks that the world we live in is the way it is because in theory this would be an ideal model for so many people. Older adults I know really just need a Facebook terminal but are required to buy a whole computer. If anything at all goes wrong with it they freak out and buy a brand new one. So much tech waste and so much hardware not being used for the majority of the time. If they had lightweight terminals there’d be less issues on their end but even if they replaced it at the first issue, it wouldn’t be an entire computer getting trashed. Since all they use is the occasional facebook the mandatory internet thing wouldn’t even be an issue. Plenty of younger people might also be good candidates for this since they basically exclusively use online features too.
Obviously I would never trust this kind of service for a variety of reasons, but in theory the world could really benefit from that model.
Yup, there’s a cycle between centralization and edge. Started with centralization, mainframes, went edge with the first PCs (and game consoles) and ever since corpos have been trying to pull it back to the center in waves. Thin client, cloud compute, arguably phones (as apps processing in the cloud), Geforce Now, AI. So far it’s always gone back to the edge for most of the population, except for niche cases (or not in the case of phones). As internet gets faster and more reliable the chance of it sticking longer in the central zone increases (IMO).
It also allow the opposite, the fediverse is a living example of it, the more internet is faster the more we can organize better to decentralize, it’s harder that someone get in contact with the decentralized internet but it’s more probable that it happen now than 7 years ago
Some companies also would still continue to sell consumer hardware (like Framework, probably)
I see it as a fight, companies are currently winning sadly but we have the power to win too
Heartily agree. I was trying for objectivity, personally you’ll take my general purpose computers from my cold dead hands, and I will encourage everyone I can to support it.
I take some solace from the general pendulum nature of the process (and societal evolution in general), this too shall pass. Doesn’t mean we don’t need to fight. Evil triumphs when good people do nothing.
Sun ray was cool.
We had them at university with smart cards.
As an end user with this model at work, I hate this slow-ass shit that keeps freezing on me and randomly disconnects. Not fun or productive when it starts talking seconds to register a click because the connection becomes unstable for no apparent reason.
Wait, are you still running a SunRay at work?
Wow, I thought they were all scrapped