• sbv@sh.itjust.works
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    a history of the Luddite movement—a group of artisans and textile workers who resisted the adoption of machines during the early years of the Industrial Revolution in England and whose resistance to being displaced from their work was met with violence by the British monarchy.

    That’s a much better explanation of the Luddite movement than I was expecting.

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      People always assume that it is an anti-technology movement when it’s really an income-protection movement.

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        One of the major complaints of the luddites were quality too. The (quite literal) orphan crushing machines made a lot of cloth. So much new uses for cloth were created, because no one needed so much cloth before

        But it was cheap cloth that wore down much faster. It was also the birth of consumerism

        There’s a lot of aspects to the struggle of the luddites that very much apply to modern issues, this aspect has been on my mind in relation to AI lately… The displaced workers aren’t the only victims, society gets worse for everyone at the altar of profits

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          Should look into Mondragon coop style of company. They employed 70k people at sole time.

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        It’s more than just income protection. The Luddites were against the way the manufacturing capital was being used to effectively create wage slavery. They weren’t against technology, they were against a specific use case that undermined worker rights and freedoms, not just incomes. The end result of their suppression was nearly a century of worker abuse and exploitation that ultimately produced the violent conflicts with the labour movement at the beginning of the 20th century.

        It’s currently looking like we’re headed back into an era where the owner class is going to be leveraging government to mass-murder their own employees to maintain their dominion over the masses.

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        I mean, today a lot of people are anti-genAi just because they had enough of it making everything worse (including technology), while also being an environmental disaster, and yet there are always assholes to accuse them of being “anti-technology”.

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            “I’m anti-capitalism” well the white house may grant your wish. they want to own the ai companies. you may get to live in your world where the government owns it all.

            i rather have private ownership.

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              What you’re describing is the theorised end state of capitalism. See crony-capitalism, state-capitalism, plutocracy, kakistrocracy, kleptocracy.

              You can still own private property in a world that outlaws billionaires, requires strong redistribution of wealth, and ensures every large enterprise is democratic, instead of plutocratic. Reality is not binary. But if you don’t accept that the existence of an ultra wealthy elite is an anti-democratic threat to the life and liberty of everyone — to the rule of law and social contract — you’re gonna end up in an authoritarian fascist or communist hellscape run by megalomaniacal psychopaths who don’t care about you, cut from the same cloth as each other. You can either support things that benefit the majority, or boot lick the criminally corrupt. If you choose to lick the boot, don’t be a petty little bitch and complain when the world comes crashing down around you.