• Brkdncr@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    China will be running out of people soon. Their birth rate has been in collapse.

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      17 hours ago

      China will not collapse. It produces too many goods and its economy is too strong. Birth rates aren’t a problem to the point that they undermine manufacturing.

      If someone tries to tell you the story that China will collapse and they seem credible, just reach out to me. I have a bridge for sale that will help you short the Chinese collapse.

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          16 hours ago

          Intellectual property shouldn’t exist. If China wants to “steal” ram designs and sell them for cheaper, then LeT tHe fReE mArKeT wOrK

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      17 hours ago

      But they’ll still have plenty of people by 2030.

      And if they’re not as xenophobic as some other countries I could mention, they could easily solve the population issue through immigration.

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        11 hours ago

        And if they’re not as xenophobic as some other countries I could mention, they could easily solve the population issue through immigration.

        Every Chinese book I’ve read screams at me nationalism and xenophobia, be it modern fantasy, 50 years old detective series or comedy.

        And immigration to China is - currently - heavily restricted. Like damn heavily. And you will not become a permanent resident, and there is literally 0 chance of becoming a citizen, unless you’re of Han Chinese descent, preferably first generation, preferably looking Chinese, and you can’t have dual nationality (from last census in 2020 about 17.000 people ever got a citizenship, which is what. 0.0012% of population? And the permanent residency in 2017 was about 10k total).

        My country, Poland (about 38m people), grants more than that every year.

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          2 hours ago

          Yeah, this will probably have interesting consequences down the line, but not in 2030, and maybe not 2100 even

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            2 hours ago

            maybe not 2100 even

            Chinese government does not seem to agree with you, considering its:

            • Pro natal policies
            • Heavy research into automation being sold as “to fill in labour gaps” (even though the gig work is skyrocketing)
            • Retirement age reforms increasing the retirement age

            Chinese universities also do not agree with your flippant attitude and are literally alarmist about it:

            Tsinghua projections (that accurately predicted peak of population) show halving the population (and that > 50% will be people over retirement age) by the year 2100: https://www.dess.tsinghua.edu.cn/en/info/1226/2472.htm

            On the other hand the dude who was saying something about collapsing in 3 years also didn’t knew what he was talking about.

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              1 hour ago

              Imo, if they succeed in automating everything they probably will not have to care about drop in population either