• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    North Korea is pretty great and looking at history their nuclear program is completely justified. The US keeps saying “oh just give up your nukes we promise we won’t overthow your government and then make your country a US puppet”, if you want to see how well that works out look at Libya.

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      I’ve seen this image before in a Christian nationalist context and I’ve found it really funny how light pollution is their metric on how good the country is

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    yeah so… remember that kid who went to north Korea, and then he got arrested and eventually sent home in a coma? that DPRK?

    anyone who thinks the DPRK is some hidden utopia is a dumbass

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      His parents denied an autopsy after he died, and the doctor that examined him found no evidence of mistreatment. It seems likely that he contracted illness like botulism, and was returned before his sentence was complete as a show of good will. The denial of an autopsy left it credible that he was tortured to death, which is how the story was reported in the west, but there’s no actual evidence for this narrative beyond the coma of unclear origin.

      Regardless, nobody is saying the DPRK is a utopia. There are good aspects to the DPRK, but more than anything it is a real country, not literally Mordor as many westerners make it out to be. The image of a hellscape is used to justify sanctions and dehumanization of northern Koreans.

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      No One says its a utopia, we Just Say It was portrayed worse than it Is.

      Like sharks ig

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          Me, I can finally live outside of the sphere of influence of USA and I don’t need to know what type of new horror human trash will come up with in their next election.

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            It’s unsurprising none want to answer the question. Sounds like those who felt like responding wish a fairytale was true.

            None of you would last in NK, despite how much you glaze it.

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              Why do you not think I could live and work comfortably in NK? If I learned the language (BIG if, I know, just bare with me), how would my life be worse as a cook in North Korea vs America, I am genuinely curious how much you know about daily life there

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              motherfucker I’m still waiting for your semiliterate ass to elaborate on whether you mean living in sharks or koreas.

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              I did respond your question and gave you the why, wtf you’re talking about?

              None of you would last in NK, despite how much you glaze it.

              “The voices in my head told me”

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              None of you would last in NK, despite how much you glaze it.

              You have so clearly never even met someone from the DPRK not to mind talked to one about what life is actually like. Honestly probably good as I’m sure they wouldn’t appreciate being hit with the torrent of chauvinist assumptions you clearly have.

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      Ah yes the two options, secret dystopia or literal mordor. These are the parameters of a very serious conversation

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    I mean, objectively, the dprk is largely underdeveloped which is enough for me to say i wouldn’t want to live there (and yes it doesn’t help that the entire world hates them and wont leave then alone). Last I knew lots of housing was getting built in rural areas though, which is good.

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    That’s it. I’m done with Lemmy. What the fuck is this communist dictator apologist propaganda?

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      That’s quite the point of lemmy, block instance you don’t want to interact with, or better, open up to views that are not curated by US

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        Will you tell us about your personal experiences with the glory of North Korea, OP? Please, let is know where all your rock-solid knowledge of the subject matter comes from.

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          Is your point that only those that have visited the DPRK have a right to speak on it? At best, this means most of us are equally unable to speak on it, meaning any condemnation of it as an evil country akin to Mordor is as absurd as those claiming it isn’t an evil country akin to Mordor.

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          I used to be like you a few years ago.Then I started looking into the history of the DPRK more. I learned about the Korean war, how the US killed around 20% of the North Korean population. The orders were to shoot anything that moves, combatant or not. Every building, dam or other piece of infrastructure still standing up was to be bombed. Is it any wonder a highly militarized society grew out of these circumstances, one that will do whatever it takes to not suffer another genocide?

          Also, did you know the word ‘brainwashing’ has first been invented during the Korean war to describe American soldiers that had been in North Korean captivity? Many were treated quite well and even received education on American imperialism and communism, and when released they started telling everyone how the Americans were actually the bad ones and how communism really is the way forward for the world. Before that, American media had been running a campaign telling everyone North Korean communists were slaughtering American captives by the thousands, so obviously they had to pretend that those released American soldiers weren’t acting out of their free will and they had to blame it on some advanced ‘Asian mind control’ and they invented the term ‘brainwashing’. You can look that up if you don’t believe me, just search ‘brainwashing’ on Wikipedia, it’s right on top of the page.

          There’s a lot more that I could say but I’ll leave it at that. I don’t think the DPRK is that particularly great or a country I’d like to live in, but it’s too simplistic to just paint them as this anomaly in world history, this country that turned into an evil dictatorship overnight for no reason.

          If you’re interested, I would recommend the book ‘Everyday life in the North Korean revolution’. It’s a study of how regular North Koreans experienced the revolution right after liberation from Japanese occupation, how everyone was zealously working on building a new communal society as an alternative to capitalism.