• Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    The lead time on new fabs is massive like truely massive. We would have to assume this bubble won’t burst for the next decade to justify it.

    On the flip side ramping up production is what actually caused the current problem to a degree. The last time there was a massive bubble that caused a huge demand surge for memory. The various companies producing it all ramped up production. Then the bubble popped and 70% of the companies went bankrupt.

    Its why the current companies are refusing to ramp production. They refuse to be fucked over by the bubble. And frankly I don’t blame them.

    As stupid as it is it’s ALSO good for the consumer. Cause if the bubble goes pop and the few remaining big guys all go belly up. Then we are all collectively fucked.

    If you think now is bad the fuck do you think would happen if one one few remaining fabs goes bankrupt and is sold off and split up.

    Best case scenario is long term we have a larger number of more flexible smaller fabs. Realistically it just means we have even fewer companies making ram at all in the short term and prices go even higher for possibly years longer then they otherwise would.

    So while yeah the ram companies are making money hand over fucking fist. They are also doing what is best for themselves and the customer. Shit just fucking sucks cause reality disagrees with the delusion that’s being imposed on it.

    • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz
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      2 hours ago

      The big three producers refusal to expand will hurt them a lot, chinese producers like cxmt got a great way in and have already started producing dram that works for ddr5 6000mhz.