• Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 hours ago

    I own guns. I enjoy shooting paper targets at the range and clay disks flying through the air. I grew up around guns on a farm. I’m very comfortable handling them.

    Me, and responsible people like me, are PARANOID about gun safety. Even if I KNOW it’s unloaded, I never point it in an unsafe direction. Like, not even towards the right because my neighbors house is that way 300 yards away through a concrete basement wall etc. I never point it at something I don’t intend to kill/destroy, and my finger never touches the trigger unless I intend to pull it. When the gun isn’t in my direct and immediate control - it’s locked up.

    I HATE assholes like the person in this story. They deserve criminal negligence, their guns taken away forever, and some community penalty that’s severe. There is no way in hell “the dog did it”. Give me a break. At best, they were cleaning it in an unsafe manner and did some very negligent things (didn’t check the chamber, pointed it at their neighbor, pulled the god damn trigger), OR they were being a complete jackass and waving it around gangster style.

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      6 hours ago

      It baffles me that this person had to:

      1. Have their firearm and ammo in proximity without the intent to immediately discharge it
      2. Have their firearm LOADED in their own home without the intent to discharge it.
      3. “theoretically” leave it LOADED and unattended in their home long enough for “their dog” to discharge it.

      Yeah this is absolutely the type of person who should not be allowed to handle firearms.

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        5 hours ago

        This is the type of person that should not have a child, a car, and many other things. This is an irresponsible person with everything. The dog was in danger. The neighbors were in danger.

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      Yeah, precisely.

      There are actually quite a lot of regulations, in not all, but a lot of US states, that mandate varying levels of safe storage of firearms.

      The problem is that to actually enforce that fully, you’d basically need surprise food inspectors, but for guns… which would probably run into the 4th Amendment… or, you’d have to actually revamp the 2nd Ammendment to mandate that people be required to regularly retake/retest on some kind of firearm safety course… I dunno.

      But yeah, an actually responsible gun owner… probably has something like a dedicated sand bucket to point a semi auto weapon into, while they are verifying that its fully unloaded and cleared, juuuuust in case some kind of uncommanded discharge happens when you’re racking the slide to get the (potentially) chambered round out.

      And yeah, never sweep anybody (or a place where anybody could be, within a mile) even with a gun you personally just unloaded. Never finger a trigger when you don’t need to. You just don’t do that.

      I would at least say its possible the dog discharged the weapon, but it doesn’t matter, the situation where that is a thing that can happen should never have been allowed to arise… and yeah, the situations you describe that lead to an ND occuring are much more likely.