me and my buddies getting skull tattoos #JustMarineThings

Also lets not forget his defense of SS rune tattoos

The rune enthusiasts that discussion is about

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    Got some sources for that? Cause I’m finding Fox News and idk if I trust that lol.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/platners-anti-corporate-crusade-hits-awkward-snag-receipts-tell-another-story

    Liberals are most certainly against him with most of the hit pieces coming from DNC or Democrat backed articles. You’ve got establishment democrats that vote with republicans saying that he should be disqualified.

    The Blackwater connection is documented and worth talking about. The tattoo is documented and worth talking about. The Reddit posts are documented and worth talking about. None of that is off the table. But “former Abu Ghraib guard who said he was in it for the love of killing” is a very specific claim and you should be able to source that independently of Fox News or DNC opposition research.

    The tattoo was covered within 48 hours of him learning about the association. His former campaign director said he should have known given his military history background, which is a fair criticism. His Army background check apparently didn’t flag it, which is either evidence he didn’t know or evidence the system failed. Both are possible. Neither is a clean answer.

    The Reddit posts are the harder thing to dismiss. PTSD and depression are real explanations but they’re not automatic absolution, especially the sexual assault comments.

    What I’m pushing back on is the pattern of concerns arriving in a coordinated way right before an election against someone who’s running explicitly against the establishment and has Sanders backing. That’s not saying the concerns aren’t real but the timing and the sources matter and deserve the same scrutiny you’re applying to him.

    It sounds like you’ve not actually talked to anyone in real life. Go to Maine. Talk to the people. Listen to the platform. You can’t let go of words for actions. You’ve been online too long.

    Is it so hard to believe that someone who has experienced the disgust of our system can wake up to it? Isn’t that the whole point? Or are you on the side that no one is redeemable and undesirables should be deported/executed?

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      Liberals are most certainly against him with most of the hit pieces coming from DNC or Democrat backed articles

      the guy is a liberal himself so idk what you’re saying here. As a reminder liberal -> believes in private ownership of the means of production, socialist -> believes in public ownership of the means of production and I haven’t heard any democrat talk about seizing the means of production, the absolute core of any socialist movement. Certainly not Platner.

      But “former Abu Ghraib guard who said he was in it for the love of killing” is a very specific claim and you should be able to source that independently of Fox News or DNC opposition research.

      https://search.pullpush.io/?author=p-hustle&subreddit=usmc&type=comment&q=kill&sort_type=created_utc&sort=desc&before=1578009600&after=1577836800

      The tattoo was covered within 48 hours of him learning about the association.

      he had that tattoo for 18 years. Did he never see an SS uniform in a movie or something? Did he never see a picture of a concentration camp guard? Pretty sure I’d recognise my tattooes if I had any. Here is him commenting under one such picture https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/CombatFootage/comments/auy0bi/_/ehbh3n6/?context=4

      What I’m pushing back on is the pattern of concerns arriving in a coordinated way right before an election against someone who’s running explicitly against the establishment and has Sanders backing.

      Why do you think it’s coordinated? It’s pretty natural to scrutinise candidates before elections and that criticisms would become more frequent.

      Also Sanders, the guy that voted for bombing yugoslavia is not really a socialist. Sanders who refused to call it a genocide for two years and when he finally did opened with “but hamas started it”. Sanders who has not as much as uttered the words “means of production” in years now probably is not a socialist but a full on zionist. He’s a lightning rod to diffuse leftists movements anyone who paid attention to the 2016 primaries saw that very clear.

      That’s not saying the concerns aren’t real but the timing and the sources matter and deserve the same scrutiny you’re applying to him.

      Before you think I’m some Platner buff with a pocket full of links to rebuff everything, I got everything from 7 month old hexbear posts by searching for “platner” and checking “post title only”. And they’re all well sourced.

      You can’t let go of words for actions.

      what actions? I’m not being snide, I don’t know what actions you could mean here.

      Is it so hard to believe that someone who has experienced the disgust of our system can wake up to it?

      When it’s all part of a political campaign then yes. If there is no grassroots organization outside of the dem establishment backing him then yes. If he gets endorsements from zionists like AOC, Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders, then yes.

      I said it below somewhere, it would be so sad to see you yanks fall for it again but I believe you lot are desperate for any excuse to vote dem and not having to do any organizing work yourself and just latch on to it. I don’t see any other explanation for the behavior I’m seeing from my POV.

      Get organized and don’t vote dem. They are pied pipers, it’s a scam, you’re gonna have to do the work yourself.