Recent commencement speakers including Google's Eric Schmidt have been booed for praising AI and encouraging students to use it as they embark on their careers.
All of that falls apart in more ways than one for a lot of people once they can’t maintain a quality of life at all. I’m not saying they aren’t susceptible to propaganda. I’m saying that propaganda often falls apart when you have to worry about where your next meal is coming from.
Young people are using AI because they want the shortcuts to the goal society said they need to achieve.
Pretty much all of the stuff you talk about is stuff a smaller subset of the population fall for. You went through and described a bunch of MAGA voting as if the vast majority of higher education graduates fall into this category.
In point of fact it’s been proven repeatedly that more often than not the reason Conservatives have been trying desperately to fight against higher education and education in general is because they get pushback from educated people more often, even after feeding them a steady diet of religion, conservative propaganda, and racism.
This is completely ignoring the majority of people to make your point.
It also ignores the last 70 years of politics and economics which explain how we got here. There’s more too it than “we convince them to vote against their own best interest”.
All of that falls apart in more ways than one for a lot of people once they can’t maintain a quality of life at all.
Nailed it.
You can’t gaslight people when they can’t put food on the table. The people who get elected this November in the US will largely argue against data centers and for affordability. (Though I’m skeptical that any of them, save Graham Platner, would actually vote for any meaningful change.)
All of that falls apart in more ways than one for a lot of people once they can’t maintain a quality of life at all.
Agree with you on this, itsomg been a question of "how bad does it have to get before people stop swallowing bullshit. We still aren’t there yet, so it hasn’t fallen apart.
This is completely ignoring the majority of people to make your point. It also ignores the last 70 years of politics and economics which explain how we got here. There’s more too it than “we convince them to vote against their own best interest”.
The majority of people, voters anyway, have supported the bullshit and lies which is exactly how we got here.
The majority of voters don’t like the current regime and are fighting it in through the avenues they are aware of.
But here’s the main problem.
The propaganda isn’t how we got here. The fact is, the conservative party in this country has been desperately chipping away at public power for decades. They enacted policy and legislation over a period of years (over 100 years if we’re gonna be honest about this), in order to defang the public. The main problem with that is that propaganda only works when you can control the discourse and that’s the reason the big push is happening now. This is their last ditch attempt to get things they want done and cash out. They do not plan to be here for the aftermath.
The average MAGA voter is indoctrinated with the propaganda but that’s not really why Trump won. He made promises that appealed to their basest/hateful natures and those are the majority of the promises he kept. He won because of complacency on the part of people who opposed him (including voters and voter eligible people who opposed him), and the hatred of the people who supported him. Some of that hatred comes from the propaganda. But some of it just comes from the fact that the problem is a systemic part of our country as an institution and that’s the major thing you leave out. Along with the complacency and the hatred, he also won because desperate people trying to cash in and cash out backed him. There’s a greed component you also left out.
The crazy thing is that greed component also exists in the voters.
Pretending that it’s simply a matter of using propaganda to get people to vote against their own self interest is only part of the picture.
They were voting for things they view as part of their self interest.
They all starve you then what will you do? I already see so many people saying they can’t travel to dc due to being broke and working. So I’m supposed to believe they still find it in themselves to go when they are broke and unemployed? No, it will turn to… i need to DoorDash 20 hours a day so I can’t. It’s constant “I can’t” in this shit country. I’m not sure where everyone learned how to be pathetic but there’s no fucking eat these rich fucks haven’t figured it out.
This idea that you have to travel to effect a good protest or effect change is not one I actually understand.
There are a lot of things you can do just to be an informed voter without traveling at all:
Track Their Voting Record: Websites like GovTrack.us and Congress.gov allow you to see how your representative or senator has voted on various bills and issues. This can give you insight into whether they are supporting the policies they promised to back.
Use Fact-Checking Websites: Organizations like PolitiFact and FactCheck.org track politicians’ promises and rate their progress. They provide detailed reports on whether promises have been kept, broken, or are still in progress.
Review Legislation They Sponsored: Check if they have introduced or co-sponsored any bills related to their campaign promises. This can be a good indicator of their commitment to their pledges.
Follow News and Reports: Stay informed through reputable news sources and watchdog organizations that cover congressional activities and hold politicians accountable.
Engage with Constituents: Attend town hall meetings, read newsletters, and participate in community forums where you can hear directly from the member of Congress and ask questions about their promises.
Look at Endorsements and Ratings: Organizations like the League of Conservation Voters, the American Civil Liberties Union, and others often rate politicians based on their performance and alignment with specific issues.
Even outside that there have been multiple “no kings” protests all over the country.
There have been local protests.
There are lobby groups.
There’s still town hall meetings and door to door advocacy.
The one thing you need for a lot of these things are time. That’s at least part of the reason you want to keep the general population employed. So what happens when you have an educated class of people who aren’t employed anymore because companies want to pilot AI to do their jobs? Especially entry level jobs?
All of that falls apart in more ways than one for a lot of people once they can’t maintain a quality of life at all. I’m not saying they aren’t susceptible to propaganda. I’m saying that propaganda often falls apart when you have to worry about where your next meal is coming from.
Young people are using AI because they want the shortcuts to the goal society said they need to achieve.
Pretty much all of the stuff you talk about is stuff a smaller subset of the population fall for. You went through and described a bunch of MAGA voting as if the vast majority of higher education graduates fall into this category.
In point of fact it’s been proven repeatedly that more often than not the reason Conservatives have been trying desperately to fight against higher education and education in general is because they get pushback from educated people more often, even after feeding them a steady diet of religion, conservative propaganda, and racism.
This is completely ignoring the majority of people to make your point.
It also ignores the last 70 years of politics and economics which explain how we got here. There’s more too it than “we convince them to vote against their own best interest”.
Nailed it.
You can’t gaslight people when they can’t put food on the table. The people who get elected this November in the US will largely argue against data centers and for affordability. (Though I’m skeptical that any of them, save Graham Platner, would actually vote for any meaningful change.)
What are we doing to make sure they aren’t stealing these elections?
The only thing we can do: organizing locally. “We the people” don’t have any power outside our local jurisdictions and cities.
Agree with you on this, itsomg been a question of "how bad does it have to get before people stop swallowing bullshit. We still aren’t there yet, so it hasn’t fallen apart.
The majority of people, voters anyway, have supported the bullshit and lies which is exactly how we got here.
This is an oversimplified version of events.
The majority of voters don’t like the current regime and are fighting it in through the avenues they are aware of.
But here’s the main problem.
The propaganda isn’t how we got here. The fact is, the conservative party in this country has been desperately chipping away at public power for decades. They enacted policy and legislation over a period of years (over 100 years if we’re gonna be honest about this), in order to defang the public. The main problem with that is that propaganda only works when you can control the discourse and that’s the reason the big push is happening now. This is their last ditch attempt to get things they want done and cash out. They do not plan to be here for the aftermath.
The average MAGA voter is indoctrinated with the propaganda but that’s not really why Trump won. He made promises that appealed to their basest/hateful natures and those are the majority of the promises he kept. He won because of complacency on the part of people who opposed him (including voters and voter eligible people who opposed him), and the hatred of the people who supported him. Some of that hatred comes from the propaganda. But some of it just comes from the fact that the problem is a systemic part of our country as an institution and that’s the major thing you leave out. Along with the complacency and the hatred, he also won because desperate people trying to cash in and cash out backed him. There’s a greed component you also left out.
The crazy thing is that greed component also exists in the voters.
Pretending that it’s simply a matter of using propaganda to get people to vote against their own self interest is only part of the picture.
They were voting for things they view as part of their self interest.
They all starve you then what will you do? I already see so many people saying they can’t travel to dc due to being broke and working. So I’m supposed to believe they still find it in themselves to go when they are broke and unemployed? No, it will turn to… i need to DoorDash 20 hours a day so I can’t. It’s constant “I can’t” in this shit country. I’m not sure where everyone learned how to be pathetic but there’s no fucking eat these rich fucks haven’t figured it out.
This idea that you have to travel to effect a good protest or effect change is not one I actually understand.
There are a lot of things you can do just to be an informed voter without traveling at all:
Track Their Voting Record: Websites like GovTrack.us and Congress.gov allow you to see how your representative or senator has voted on various bills and issues. This can give you insight into whether they are supporting the policies they promised to back.
Use Fact-Checking Websites: Organizations like PolitiFact and FactCheck.org track politicians’ promises and rate their progress. They provide detailed reports on whether promises have been kept, broken, or are still in progress.
Review Legislation They Sponsored: Check if they have introduced or co-sponsored any bills related to their campaign promises. This can be a good indicator of their commitment to their pledges.
Follow News and Reports: Stay informed through reputable news sources and watchdog organizations that cover congressional activities and hold politicians accountable.
Engage with Constituents: Attend town hall meetings, read newsletters, and participate in community forums where you can hear directly from the member of Congress and ask questions about their promises.
Look at Endorsements and Ratings: Organizations like the League of Conservation Voters, the American Civil Liberties Union, and others often rate politicians based on their performance and alignment with specific issues.
Even outside that there have been multiple “no kings” protests all over the country.
There have been local protests.
There are lobby groups.
There’s still town hall meetings and door to door advocacy.
The one thing you need for a lot of these things are time. That’s at least part of the reason you want to keep the general population employed. So what happens when you have an educated class of people who aren’t employed anymore because companies want to pilot AI to do their jobs? Especially entry level jobs?
Way* but that’s a fun typo