• Proton VPN has hit back at Canada’s proposed Bill C-22

• The proposed legislation could require VPNs to log user metadata

• NordVPN and Windscribe have also slammed the bill

  • XLE@piefed.social
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    4 hours ago

    Because, for some reason on Lemmy, people think Proton is above criticism, and will defend the corporation’s false claims of fighting for their users when we have article after article proving the opposite

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      They’re not at all above criticism. The thing is all we have in the way of criticism is article after article of misinformation born from either technical ignorance or deliberate misrepresentation of the facts. None of which stand up to a moments scrutiny, much less “prove” anything.

      On the more innocent side of the scale, you’ll have people chastising Proton over negatives that are entirely out of their control, and exist because they have to when operating as a public email provider. Then those same people will point people to alternatives like Fastmail or Tutanota that have all the same problems, but are less transparent about it.

      Like if you want to make an argument against public email providers as a whole you can surely do so, but so far there’s really no evidence that Proton is anything but as good as you are reasonably going to get if you do decide to use one.

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        all we have in the way of criticism is article after article of misinformation

        Ironic you made misinformation to claim this. It’s a strawman. Anyway

        negatives that are entirely out of their control

        No, it’s their false advertisement that claims it is within their control.

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          Ironic you made misinformation to claim this. It’s a strawman. Anyway

          I didn’t make any misinformation. Nor is there a strawman. If you think there is “article after article” of proof then feel free to provide a couple.

          No, it’s their false advertisement that claims it is within their control.

          Like what exactly?

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      I’d like to see those “articles over articles” that do not reference the one case that is cited over and over please.

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        You already educated everybody here that Proton is not to be trusted when it comes to logging. What do I get out of talking to you further, my anarchist friend? If you see a couple more articles, will you make a post condemning Proton’s false advertisement?

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          I’m more of a socialist than an anarchist, although i sympathize with anarchists - socialism and anarchism can have quite some overlap.

          Any you really should work on your reading skills, because what i wrote and what you want to understand are two very different things. Since they don’t log IPs when not court ordered, no court can retroactively extract that data, and to be honest, if you know that you might attract government attention, using Tor or a VPN (yes, even ProtonVPN would have sufficed in this case) is basic OpSec - both would have prevented actionable intel being logged.

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            You sound like you would be absolutely outraged if you found out Proton marketed itself towards activists. Have you looked at the promises on their homepage recently?