• velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    24 hours ago

    Society didn’t determine that so much as biology did.

    Regardless, splitting the bill on a date is so completely different and not comparable to splitting shared marital assets during a divorce.

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      23 hours ago

      Oh. I forgot the part where I invite people to dinner with my penis.

      Ridiculous.

      We are SO far removed from biology that to consider it in social situations is just silly.

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        23 hours ago

        It’s the whole women get pregnant thing that I was referencing, my dude.

        I always split bills on the first date regardless of the gender of my date. If men went behind my back to pay the entire bill after I said I wanted to split, I would never see them again.

        There’s plenty of women that have their own money. If you don’t want to date a woman who doesn’t want to split on dates, just don’t date her.

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          11 hours ago

          Women being able to get pregnant does not in any way lead to men pursuing.

          If two adults agree to split a bill, gee that’s nice. It’s also irrelevant. The topic here was “it’s unfair that men pay”, and my point is “it’s not unfair. MEN don’t pay. Inviters pay. And that’s fair.”

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            10 hours ago

            Yeah it does lol

            If men were the ones to get and be pregnant for most of a year and women were able to ejaculate multiple times a day, our society would be structured differently.

            At the end of the day, no one is being forced to pay.

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              8 hours ago

              Why do you think being pregnant has anything to do with who pursues who?

              You described an alternate scenario, but I still can’t seem to connect the dots. What does pregnancy have to do with pursuit? What does frequency of insemination have to do with pursuit? Why isn’t society structured in such a way that women are in charge and use men as semen providers and nothing else? That would also be a completely viable societal structure that fits within the biology. So why not that?

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                  3 hours ago

                  Yeah. I also can’t explain things to people when I don’t understand them myself. Much easier to pull the tough guy persona out and fake confidence.

                  Good show of it. 8/10.

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                    43 minutes ago

                    You’ve already shown that you’re not willing to engage in a good faith discussion about this, why would I waste my time trying to have an interesting discussion about patriarchies, societal expectations, and biology with you.