• deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    You are saying we are excluding Putin. That is the straw man. Putin is a capitalist oligarch that should have never led Russia and he has come into power due to the reforms led by western interests and the illegal dissolution of the USSR which has caused untold suffering, in ways like you have leeches like Putin that say Nazi stuff.

    Now, what you’re “outlining” is just false, anyone who can read English can see what’s going on in this thread. Ukrainian soldiers are openly using Neo-Nazi imagery on their official uniforms. A US backed pro-NATO president is taking photos with these Nazi symbols proudly (while claiming to be a Jewish convert which is a whole other can of worms).

    Yes, Putin is using Nazi rhetoric, as is Trump, many other western and European leaders, Indian and Asian leaders, etc. but this does not change the fact that you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas or swastika/SS adjacent symbols like wolfsangel, black sun, totenkopf, etc.

    I gotta stop feeding trolls this shit sucks too much energy out of me

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      Thanks, uh, I’m not SkyezOpen. Sorry if I interrupted your conversation.

      Putin is a capitalist oligarch that should have never led Russia

      you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas

      So you’re saying that on OP’s infographic we should be supporting neither Ukraine or Russia? Or should we be slightly to the right on the Russia-Ukraine axis because it’s better to support a capitalist oligarch using Nazi rhetoric than not supporting anyone?

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        14 hours ago

        I’m not telling anyone who or what to support, I am only explaining the ways I’ve come to understand my own Anti-War position as a leftist and I also love pointing out the lies America has spread

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          11 hours ago

          Damn right, fuck war and fuck imperialists.

          By the way,

          you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas

          Got a link? My leftist group chat doesn’t believe this, and I can’t find anything myself that’s not obviously doctored.

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              That’s for sure their wolfsangel symbol, thanks. Doesn’t the photo misidentify the symbol though? The wolfsangel isn’t an SS logo afaik, and the blurry insignia looks more like a 44 than SS.

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              6 hours ago

              this is the one that I meant, thank you! AFAIK there’s nothing of Zelenskyy denouncing these types of symbols or atleast acknowledging their anti semitism. There’s no way he doesn’t know either guys, just look at those symbols.