• kiagam@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    I understand the parallel, but all you said can be confirmed or denied by several sources I have access to. I don’t have alternative sources for most of the claims about China. Could you provide them? When I read about these things, it seemed trustworthy.

    Also, I’m not even american, chill. I am not chinese either, I don’t have a horse in this race. Both can burn in nuclear winter as far as I care

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      8 hours ago

      by several sources I have access to

      Does your government limit your access to any sources?

      But also all of those things are true and verifiable. That’s freedom in America baby—free to be rich and if you’re not filthy rich and just middle class or above you’re good as long as you’re white and male. Not so free for many other people.

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        8 hours ago

        What I mean by “have access to” is that information about china is scarce unless you are reading in chinese and talking to chinese people. I will be visiting there later this year btw and have family that goes frequently for business, but that doesn’t really show political reality

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        8 hours ago

        No, third world country that doesn’t give a shit and isn’t technically capable of doing anything to that scale (maybe I saw a DNS block once? And only on the ISP DNS)

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      7 hours ago

      There are some hardcore pro-china people on lemmy. I made a joke about disappearing someone for re-education (like what happened to Jack Ma, co-founder of Ali-baba) and people downvoted shit out of it and said my American media is lying, idk what I’m talking about, etc etc.

      I’m not saying the American media is a beacon of journalistic integrity or anything but it’s telling they won’t even admit these things happen in China.

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        6 hours ago

        …You spread a conspiracy theory not even supported by mainstream US outlets and people reacted badly?!

        Jack Ma was not ‘disappeared.’ He was, in fact, brought up on charges that were later dismissed due to his cooperation. This was public news. Because Jack Ma attempted to bribe members of the CPC in order to gain political support for his incredibly unpopular and stupid idea of lessening safety regulations to bring Chinese markets closer to the ‘freedom’ of the US market.

        His political movement failed, his bribery attempts were exposed, and unfortunately, he was not punished for them beyond having to issue an apology. Honestly it’s a shame China didn’t actually punish him like your conspiracy theory suggests, given the amount of damage he attempted to do to the Chinese economy and integrity of the People’s congress.

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        7 hours ago

        I just spent 5 minutes googling and didn’t find a single source that says Jack Ma was disappeared for re-education. Not even right-wing sources like Business Insider and Forbes.

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          2 hours ago

          Wait wait wait. I wanted more info on where I might have heard that “misinformation” so I Googled it and this is literally the AI summary that popped up before I could scroll what are you talking about “didn’t find a single source” lol

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          3 hours ago

          You mean the state didn’t report what honestly happened to him? :O I’m shocked i say, shocked. You know epstein definitely killed himself and worked alone too, our government said so. As if Forbes is gonna report on that lol good try

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              2 hours ago

              No official reports, no.

              Jack Ma, critic of the Chinese government. Falls out of contact for a few days, then comes back and loves the Chinese government oh my gosh! :O