PS. This is not a critique to Debian-based distros. And i’m not suggesting you to skip Ubintu for Arch either. Arch is a bit advanced and not too easy to new users, so that won’t do for some people…

… just install Linux Mint instead.

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    As an Arch user I hate these memes. Guys, the only difference between distros is effectively the versions of packages you’re getting, and what the default packages and configs are. In Ubuntu you are completely free to have a very minimal i3 setup (I did for several years!) while in Arch you can use some bloated Gnome UI. This “Arch is fast and Ubuntu is slow” really isn’t true if you compare Arch-Gnome vs Ubuntu-Gnome, or Arch-i3 vs Ubuntu-i3.

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      it does feel package installs are much faster on arch than on Debian. Then again, Debian probably has a bunch of precautionary steps when installing a package, such as checking for dependencies/dependency conflicts and verifying the package has been installed without error.

      that said this is all true, your desktop environment uses a lot of memory gnome uses something along the lines of 1GB and same goes witu KDE. I’ve optimized my memory usage very well with mangoWM, on idle it uses like 600 MB. My browser uses more memory than my entire OS.

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      really isn’t true if you conpare Arch-Gnome vs Ubuntu-Gnome,

      So what I’m hearing is “Fuck Gnome”?

      This shitpost was bought to you by the KDE/XFCE gang collab

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        Be cautious about fucking gnomes. Most of them do know a spell that will make it fit, but it doesn’t always wear off.

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          IDK if it’s bloated or not, I’m just capitalising on the opportunity to shit on Gnome because I dislike its design choices.

          I mean no ill will to the devs or the users of gnome. It’s a bit of banter

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          Compared to i3 it is, but I admit that’s not a fair comparison as i3 is going for a very specific style that is cheap to implement.

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          Not horribly. If you have quite old/weak hardware you might notice more memory usage and stuff. If you are on a modern machine with decent specs, it won’t matter

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      I have to use Ubuntu (22.04 specifically) because I’m stuck with a 15yo laptop that can’t handle much at all so I game via Shadow which only supports that Ubuntu version… it sucks and it’s dumb but it’s the best option. It’s a constant fight against making it not auto update and run things automatically. If I have Shadow running and anything else becomes active the laptop goes into full jet engine mode and I have to pause the game or whatever I’m doing on the Shadow client, and often close it completely, or else it all crawls to a complete stop. It seems no matter what I do it refuses to stop qutomatically checking for updates whenever it feels like it via the several apps used to do so (software updater, snap store etc.). It does this a few times a day, it’s so fucking annoying but nothing I’ve tried fully works. I dream of getting to use Linux Mint, Arch and a few other distros, but so far it doesn’t seem like Shadow will expand their Linux support.

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      The only substance I can see to it is when do you draw the line from a modified Debian (or Ubuntu) setup to a “new” distro?

      If you start with an Ubuntu image its technically possible to ship of Theseus it right into an Arch image, but you could argue the default config of both is best representative of the actual distro maintainers goal (even if irrelevant to power users).

      (Saying this all as a NixOS user with a system that hardly even looks like Linux sometimes so maybe I’m a bit biased on how blurry all the lines are lmao)